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France’s Flamanville 3 nuclear reactor, its most powerful at 1,600 MW, was connected to the grid on December 21 after 17 years of construction plagued by delays and budget overruns.

The European Pressurized Reactor (EPR), designed to boost nuclear energy post-Chernobyl, is 12 years behind schedule and cost €13.2 billion, quadruple initial estimates.

President Macron hailed the launch as a key step for low-carbon energy and energy security.

Nuclear power, which supplies 60% of France’s electricity, is central to Macron’s plan for a “nuclear renaissance.”

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[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 19 hours ago

Lets hope this one stays in better condition than their other nuclear plants lol

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good. Germany made a huge mistake for themselves and for all of Europe in shutting down their nuclear plants.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except they were basically beyond design life.

And every new plant comes decades late and 4x the original budget.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But they planned on replacing it with natural gas. Not to mention that it was supposed to be Russian gas. Sweden pays for the shitty decisions in Berlin.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but the decision was made in 2011 after Fukushima, and before the Russian invasion in 2014. At this time it did make sense, gas was much cheaper and Germany still had an has no long term plan to deal with the nuclear waste.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

How does it make sense to compare yourself to a natural disaster that would be impossible on German land? Central Europe doesn't lie on one of the biggest fault lines in the world.

However, if you start talking about putting nuclear plant on Iceland you might rise a few eyebrows.

They didn't stop buying gas until the invasion 2022. Im not even sure that they don't do it now, just cant admit to it publically. And as a swede, i find it incredibly naive to trust any Russian government ever in the history of ever. There has never existed any trust between russia and Sweden/Finland. Only mutual assurance.

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Sweden pays for having not enough inner country power lines. Look at the differences within their various market zones.

Case in point, base load prices for today:

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Funny you mention market zones. They are an eu invention and we are forced to match prices because Germany can't pull they're own weight in the energy market.

Not to mention that the eu mandated market zones only applies when you aren't Germany, because of reasons.

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

EPEX SPOT SE is a company under European law based in Paris (France) with offices in Amsterdam (the Netherlands), Berlin (Germany), Bern (Switzerland), Brussels (Belgium), London (United Kingdom), and Vienna (Austria).[1] It operates the power spot markets for short-term trading in Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Sweden and Switzerland.

Not to mention that the eu mandated market zones only applies when you aren't Germany, because of reasons.

I don't see yet how one would arrive at that conclusion regarding EPEX. Please explain.

[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Germany doesn't have market zones. Cause it isn't in their interest to have them.

[–] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I'm counting nine countries though that don't have market zones:

And I'm not sure yet how high prices (or rather not high prices at the time of the screenshot) in southern Sweden are linked to Germany not being separated into more than one zone. If Sweden could transport their energy from North to South, the South would be able to use the cheaper energy from there, but apparently that isn't possible at the moment.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

They have cheap Russian gas so who nee...

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Nuclear plant construction delayed? Budget overrun? Even in one of the most nuclear developed countries in the world? Wooooow, what a surprise!!

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

1.6 GW, cool, but everyone knows all you need is 1.21 GW

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

its most powerful at 1,600 MW,

Fuck, that's 100 more MW than VVER-1500(project). Or 400 more than VVER-1200(working).

post-Chernobyl

???

is 12 years behind schedule

VVER-1500 is still project for 40 years. Most modern we have now is VVER-TOI (1300 MW).

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