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[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That comic also represents 100% of all survival crafting games, plus Factorio

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

It's true, but when I play games like Terraria, I try to preserve beautiful features of the map and even incorporate them into my builds. Like those surface cave things where it's basically floating dirt/rock with grass and trees growing on them. I often make those into the entrances of underground homes. Same with the deserts. When you get the actuators, you can make sand entrances. I also enjoy making houses in the leaves of the living trees.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

That was not a subtle theme...

[–] atocci@lemmy.world 92 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] sxan@midwest.social 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Factorio.

The factory must grow.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I like to describe the aliens that attack you in factorio as environmentalists.

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[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

The factory must grow

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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] ech@lemm.ee 46 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Avatr is about capitalism

That wasn't glaringly obvious to everyone?

[–] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well it's literally Pocahontas in space so more obvious comparison is to the colonialism. They could grow gardens and farms while destroying the natives, the movie would have been the same.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
  1. Colonialism was driven by capitalism

  2. They weren't settling land - they were setting up a mining operation.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It was just one line of dialog, but the sequel did mention that the company is expanding from just resource extraction to selling settlements to the wealthiest who are fleeing a dying earth

[–] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

the sequel

So not the original then. The one being discussed.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Thx. Thought I missed something

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[–] egrets@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

- Jack Handey

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah man, we all understood that the first time around when it was called Fern Gully.

Like Avatar if you want but like.... it is not a deep piece of media with hard-to-discern messaging. Shit is pretty clear.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fucking Tarzan was fighting evil white exploiters of pristine Africa in books back in the early 1900s.

A good white saviour from the evil white people, because the indigenous can't do it for themselves. Just like in Ferngully and Avatar.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Are there even any indigenous people in Tarzan? I haven't read the book, but from the movie I only remember his gorilla buddy and the little elephant. I think Tarzan is more about rebelling against civilization in general, instead of colonization in specific (which James Cameron's Avatar is). It's very post-industrialization in that sense.

Edit: Whoops, just read the synopsis on Wikipedia. I don't think Tarzan is the white saviour you're looking for...

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Which Tarzan book did you read the synopsis for? Burroughs wrote 24 of them.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 2 points 6 days ago

Sorry, it wasn't as much a synopsis as it was the criticism section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarzan#Themes_of_gender_and_race

Looking at it now, I see citations for the essays, but not for the factual claims made by those essays, so I hope the editor who wrote it didn't take their word for it.

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[–] Maven@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One time I unmatched someone from a dating app because the second avatar movie was coming out and they said that it was weird of me to say that the alien people were supposed to represent Native Americans because "they're just blue aliens why would you compare them to real life?"

Apparently media literacy makes you a weirdo?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm torn, because there's an idea that industrial capital only knows how to consume and destroy what it touches. And there's ample evidence to that effect.

But there's this other more naive notion that life never changes, species don't compete for habitat, and doing anything to alter the local ecology is this unforgivable sin. This, despite the fact that everything in the area is itself a product of eons of speciation and evolution and carnivorization.

The impulse to preserve has to be balanced with the expectation for change. The goal should be symbiosis, not stasis.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

The issue is that you're changing the ecosystems and environments so much that all those eons of evolution are simply lost. The only other times this happens is during natural catastrophes. Sure, in the long run this allows new life forms to take the old ones places, but it's still a massive loss of diversity and evolutionary knowledge - and unnecessary suffering for millions of living beings.

When species compete for a habitat, they rarely destroy it - and those species that do either don't survive for long, or they wipe out large swaths. We're actively killing almost anything in our habitats, and destroying them for almost all previous species.

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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Holy shit! Avatar is about capitalism? How did I miss that?! I better rewatch it and see if it's a recurring theme.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait until you learn about its subtle ecological message!

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Explore, exploit, exterminate.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Satisfactory music starts playing

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[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

Don’t forget about the part from the intro (might have been cut from the theatrical release):

They can fix a spine, if you have the money. But not from a VA check. Add $5 and you get yourself a cup of coffee.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh, they got whales? Let’s take their brain oil for eternal life!

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Does this imply communism wouldn't extract resources?

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