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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While the parties that Zelensky banned were not all left wing (opposition platform for example was a coalition of parties across the spectrum), they were not pro-Russia either. These parties have all condemned the invasion. They were called pro-Russia because they wanted to have better relationship with Russia out of pragmatism and secure the rights of Russian speaking minorities in Ukraine. Zelensky was also elected to do the same. It is a centrist position. So now Ukraine only has far right parties.

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Where did you find these details?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

You can read about the parties and their platforms on wikipedia. For example, For Life is one of the banned parties that's described as pro-Russian that publicly denounced the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine on 8 March 2022.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opposition_Platform_%E2%80%94_For_Life

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Yikes, that's not cool.

[–] gun@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Where is the evidence that every one of these parties has links to Russia? The closest you get in this article comes from an unsourced claim from British intelligence (sus) which doesn't even claim any collusion on behalf of the party itself.

[–] 5ttrAx@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

I mean, they're actively fighting a war against Russia. Seems fair enough.

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interestingly only in effect during the martial law, an apparent move to prevent a forced puppet government (hence severing all links to Russia). Strikes as a very anti-democratic move, but hard to believe any of this would remain in effect for long post war.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah yes because famously when government grabs power under some pretex they immediately relinquish it when the pretext no longer applies. Just like all the powers US government granted itself during the war on terror were scrapped.

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Relinquishing seems obvious, yes, especially considering their ambition on joining the EU.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is no realistic chance of Ukraine joining the EU and everyone knows that.

[–] Ninmi@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's not going to happen, that's the reality. Frankly, the way things are going, I'm not expecting EU to be around too much longer either.

[–] Kulun@mander.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your expectations will not be fulfilled. Don't be too disappointed!

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Kulun@mander.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Then you are easy to please.
Living in the EU I can assure you, it is "still around".

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

around for how long is the question

[–] Kulun@mander.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty short, right?
Whilst your "expectations are already being fulfilled", the EU is still around.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My expectations are that the economic crisis will drive civil unrest in EU bloc that will ultimately cause countries to leave it due to inherent disagreements. EU already fucked over countries like Greece during the 2008 crash, and we can expect more of the same during this crash.

[–] Kulun@mander.xyz -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's pretty irrational to take the expectation of future events as fulfilled, don't you think?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

What's irrational is to ignore what's happening in front of your eyes. Dissolution of EU is a process that's going to take years to come to fruition. However, the seeds of this process have already been planted.