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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 135 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Biden might be old and a bit clumsy at times, but the man doesn't keep me up at night and his policies have been home runs. He isn't overspending, he has actual experts in all his departments, hell, the economy is rock solid and the inflation caused by the mismanagement of Trump is dropping. I don't have any excuse to not support him for another term if he ends up getting the nomination.

[–] appel@lemmy.ml 51 points 1 year ago

He may not have been my first choice, but I've been pleasantly surprised with the Biden administration. I'll support him over any Republican candidate, most definitely if it happens to be Trump. I'll take Bidenomics over the trickle down myth any day of the week.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but don't you remember when there were those stickers on gas pumps? He decided crank the oil price lever in the Oval Office just to torture truck drivers, which is just plain rude.

/s (because inevitably someone will take this the wrong way)

[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I love it that those stickers will remain as gas prices continue their trend down.

[–] Shialac@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah but what about that Laptop?????

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 75 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I'm continually mystified by Biden's low polling numbers, compared to his on the job performance (and actually, you know, being on the job rather than golfing all the time). "But he's too old!" The other guy is just three years younger than he is.

Besides, if you wanted younger presidents, you should nominate them. Biden wasn't not old in 2020. If you choose Methuselah during the nomination process, that's kind of a you problem. Do the research beforehand and you won't have buyer's remorse later.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think most people are so turned off by politics that they can't be bothered to listen to actual policy, or so buried in 'both sides are owned by corps' propaganda that they assume policy changes are always harmful. I doubt that most of the people polling negative on Biden could name a specific policy or action that they disagree with. I mean, I would also like to see a President born in the last half of the previous century, but if the biggest criticism is, "he's old," then he must be doing alright. It's an easy criticism to understand and impossible to refute without resorting to 'so is the other guy.'

[–] DrPop@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alot of what I hear is people complaining he didn't meet his promises. They ignore the fact that it wasn't for lack of trying. The system is broke we have to try and fix it. And by broke I mean for the people.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alot of what I hear is people complaining he didn’t meet his promises. They ignore the fact that it wasn’t for lack of trying

I don't think any president has ever delivered on more than a handful of their campaign promises. And even then, those outcomes are stretching the accomplish a LONG way to meet the "promise".

The biggest win in a long time is probably Obama and the ACA, and that took a LOT and even that, though infinitely better than what it replaced, wasn't really what he promised us.

Meanwhile, Trump is working on his replacement for the ACA, it'll be available in a couple weeks.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because those aren't campaign promises so much as campaign agendas and the misnomer disillusions people, which is the original intent of creating the misnomer.

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[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, he's clearly orders of magnitude better than anyone the GOP will run and yes, he has pushed decent enough policy.

But around the world, I think people are looking at their left-wing parties and thinking that they're not nearly enough.

"Bidenomics" seems to just be "neoliberalism with a hint of shame". It's certainly better than "neoliberalism and we'd feed you into a woodchipper if the spreadsheet said it would be profitable" but fuck, the world is burning.

Where is the trillion dollars we spent on war now that we need it to fight literal extinction? What are we going to do when the crops fail and the robots take our jobs?Why are there Nazis with political power and private prisons paying inmates pennies? Why are our electronics made by a brutal dictatorship and why is our chocolate made by child slaves?

Why don't we have ranked choice voting so we can find people to actually fix things, instead of offering us bigger crumbs?

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Where is the trillion dollars we spent on war now that we need it to fight literal extinction?

Build back better has like half a trillion dollars for 'green' energy

Why are our electronics made by a brutal dictatorship and why is our chocolate made by child slaves?

The CHIPS act has already gotten commitments for 50 semiconductor projects in the US https://www.semiconductors.org/the-chips-act-has-already-sparked-200-billion-in-private-investments-for-u-s-semiconductor-production/

Why don’t we have ranked choice voting so we can find people to actually fix things, instead of offering us bigger crumbs?

I don't think that would really fix anything. I mean, it's a good idea, and you can paint a few rosy scenarios where a great 3rd party candidate fails because none of their supporters are willing to 'waste' their vote. But the 3rd parties put up people like Jill Stein or Cynthia McKinney. They're not big enough or organized enough to recruit good candidates, let alone voters.

Even if they could win elections, the congressional rules more-or-less force 3rd parties to caucus with one of the main 2, where they have no power, because they don't raise funds or campaign for the party.

Good candidates should be challenging poor candidates at the primary stage. GOP candidates seem to live in constant fear of primary challenges from far-right nutjobs, but I rarely hear about progressive challengers on the Dem side, AOC and Cori Bush notwithstanding.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do most polling by landline phone. Those who have a landline phone are generally 65+ and Conservative.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So you're saying that polling in this modern age is largely irrelevant?

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Any polling that is done that way at least. The issue is there also isn't any better way to do it at this point. Most people, including myself, don't pick up unknown numbers on our cell phones. And an internet-related poll is just begging for shenanigans and skewing.

So, yeah, I guess polling is irrelevant, since there's no good way to do it nowadays. The only polls that are still remotely accurate are exit polling done with the actual people voting at polls.

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[–] FoxAndKitten@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Biden was old in 2020, he was old in 2016 too. So was Trump.

Nominating younger options would be great... Except we have 2 parties who have special rights and few restrictions - they can straight up throw out nominations if they want, and they've convinced the public at large that 3rd parties aren't an option

We need ranked choice voting desperately.

Personally, I also think all votes should be write-in. If you don't know which office they're running for and can't spell your candidates name correctly, you haven't met a very low bar of education on the topic. Maybe your vote shouldn't count

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

Hey Democrats, be sure to keep this news well hidden.

God forbid you celebrate your victories.

[–] ren@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Hey man!

scratches arm

You know where I can get some of that GDP?

[–] Ballistic86@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Way to go everyone, we kept wages suppressed and still managed to generate more profits off of their labor! Hooray!

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