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Summary

Asian American groups are preparing for potential deportations of undocumented Chinese nationals, particularly military-age men, under Trump’s proposed immigration policies.

Sources indicate Chinese nationals may be prioritized due to alleged national security concerns, reflecting broader anti-China sentiment.

Community organizations are creating multilingual resources, coordinating legal support, and educating families on their rights.

Trump’s rhetoric ties Chinese immigrants to fears of espionage, intensifying anxieties.

Advocates highlight the historical targeting of minority groups during national security crises and warn of significant impacts on vulnerable communities, urging solidarity and swift action.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 31 minutes ago

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 10 minutes ago

That sucks, it sounds like it is going to be hard to find a good rub-n-tug after January.

[–] jaschen@lemm.ee 17 points 2 hours ago

My dad remarried a China-nese lady after my mom passed away. He voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. I love this lady like my own mom, but the leopard is coming in to eat soon.

That's a lot of Asian faces (39%) for these leopard to eat.

Wouldn't be surprised if they try to strip Asian American citizens, naturalized or natural born, of their citizenship either.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 39 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Also to anyone saying “well how can they deport a citizen when the other country won’t take them since they’re not one of their citizens?”

That’s the point…. They’ll stay locked up in internment camps because the US “is looking into their citizenship status” and they’ll stay there for an indefinite time.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 18 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"Then what happens when those get too full?"

Guess what happened in Germany.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 49 minutes ago

My money is on them building more camps instead. The prison industrial complex would be very unhappy about slaves going to waste.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

potential risk to national security

Pot, meet kettle.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 3 points 48 minutes ago

Pot, meet industrial boiler.

FTFY

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 30 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

Noteworthy, Trump's support from Asian American voters grew 5 points to 39% in 2024.

The AsiansMAGA PAC raised $77,063.89 for Trump, outspending some other Asian American PACs but admittedly not as much as the AAPI.

Not saying they deserve it or anything, but there certainly will be some leopards eating the faces among them.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It’s worth mentioning that there should be some distinction between first and second+ generation immigrants. Often even amongst each other there is division so those who support Trump may not have to worry about being deported.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You are making the mistaken assumption that the brute squad will bother to differentiate between them. How many second+ generation immigrants carry around proof of citizenship, anyway? They can be detained just like anyone else who doesn't look right.

(And it's super easy to carry that now, the passport card is cheap, fits in your wallet, and is a good first line of defense against being disappeared.)

[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Plus his statement changing the law where birth in the US doesn't grant citizenship.

How long do you think it will be backdated?

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Once again. This is because less people voted democratic. Same number over a smaller total is a larger percentage.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

Yeah thats fair.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Seeing 10M less Democrats vote when the Republican numbers were about the same was the biggest gut check I had. People would rather just not vote, than vote for a half black woman. That was really sad. And don’t anyone dare tell me it was about Gaza, that’s just a load of BS.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Kamala Harris did not lose because she's not a white man and perpetuating that myth is not helping.

She lost because she didn't speak to the working class.

She didn't lay out any plans nor promise any relief to the millions of people struggling.

She said she wouldn't do anything different than Biden with Palestine.

She parading around a Republican and tried to draw in the non-existent middle voter.

She promised more of the same when "the same" already wasn't good enough.

Was she the better choice? Absolutely. Did she lose because she's not a white man? FUCK NO and parroting that bullshit excuse is just distracting from the issues that actually need fixing.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

She also lost because she's not a man. And she also lost because she's not white. You're deluding yourself if you don't think race and gender had an influence in the election.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well she did actually, it was all on her website which has sadly been updated or I would show you.

You can still see her Politifact campaign promises page tho LINK

Economy

Ban corporate price gouging on food and groceries

Taxes

Will not raise taxes for those earning less than $400,000 a year

This promise extends another Biden pledge.

Roll back Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans

Enact a minimum tax for billionaires

Increase the tax rate on long-term capital gains to 28% for those earning at least $1 million a year

and this is in addition to the fact that the Biden Administration already blocked the Krogers Albertson Merger and had the FTC and DOJ investigate prices and firms across the USA. LINK

She also promised to bring back Child Tax Credits and a new $6,000 child tax credit and also to forgive even more student debts.

If there was any issue with Message it was that the people who bought Washington Post and Twitter weren't sharing their message.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

only citizens can vote though? i don't think any of those people will be deported.

You should look into Operation Wetback 1 and 2, where the US deported a bunch of Mexican immigrants (legal, illegal, documented and undocumented alike) and US citizens to Mexico for "looking too Mexican."

Citizenship means nothing to racists.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Trump in 2020 created a new DOJ office called the Denaturalization Section who would seek out cases and argue to strip citizenship. It is assumed he will start the same process again next year when he reenters office.

But even without that, the roughly 15-20 Million people in the USA which Trump promises to remove because they are undocumented likely have friends and family

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago

Citizens may have non-citizen friends and family who are potential targets.

[–] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

That anti-blackness the majority of Asian residents like to indulge in is biting them in the ass now.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 hours ago (5 children)

How likely do y'all think that I as a US Citizen with Chinese ancestry is gonna get deported.

Becausing looking back in history, e.g the Chinese Exclusion Act, it doesn't give me too much hope.

Welp out of one dicatorship into another 🤷‍♂️

Oh the situation is even more messed up considering the fact that in Chinese law, citizenship is automatically revoked when you obtain foreign citizenship. Guess I could end up stateless, in a CCP dictatorship.

Fuck this world.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 2 points 43 minutes ago

My bff and her brother were born here, but I'm extremely worried for them. A couple years ago DARPA approached her brother for the work he did on drone technology in college. I know her parents cut ties with their families in China when they moved here several decades ago, but that doesn't seem like enough to keep them from being harassed at minimum.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on how Americanized you are and how racist your area is.

I was curious so when I was in high school I once asked my classmates if they hear an accent when I speak, they said they don't hear an accent. I guess I pass? 🤷‍♂️

I'm in Philly, it should be fine. (I hope)

[–] USNWoodwork@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Would probably be helpful to have a passport to demonstrate citizenship.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Make sure you have your birth certificate with you.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

I got citizenship derived from my mom's naturalization while I was under 18. I'm gonna make copies of the document and photo backups just in case. But I'm afraid this orange dickhead is gonna attempt mass-denaturalization by making up bogus "CCP Spy" accusations.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

You have derivative citizenship? I mean, you'll probably be fine, but you're in a riskier category than a natural-born citizen of natural-born-citizen parents. The country is crazy right now. Likely most or all the worst-case scenarios won't occur. But you're slightly more exposed than others. That being said, if they're coming for you, things will have become so fucked in the US and world more generally that it wouldn't really matter where you are.

[–] watson387@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

When they come around, tell them you hate LGBTQ people, Black people, etc. That may protect you short-term.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in Philly.

Governor is Dem

PA House is Dem by 1 seat majority

Deep blue city

I hope I'm fine.

I'm not gonna cosplay a maga just to avoid getting raided by ICE

I'm gonna pretend to be apolitical.

If I'm ever pressured to reveal who I voted for (as in under duress) I'm gonna claim I voted third party because I was undecided. (I voted Harris, but who is gonna know lol, fourty-something percent of Asians Americans reportedly voted trump IIRC).

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 4 points 2 hours ago

Forty percent of asian Americans who voted.

[–] GoddessNoAi@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 4 hours ago

My concern is that they'll further weaken the already pathetic judicial process for deportation (justifying it by saying it speeds up the process "and we have so many cases to get through") and citizens who get swept up by the machine won't have a chance to prove their citizenship. Because when the REAL goal is oppression and elimination of a minority group, "accidentally" deporting a few hundred citizens is a feature not a bug.

If it gets that bad, your only hope is to have your documents on you at all times and hope that you're lucky enough for the boots on the ground to walk past you because of it.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

During the 1930s when there was a mass Mexican deportation, there were a lot of US citizens rounded up and deported. Don't trust these guys will not make the same mistake. Of course, a decade later, Mexicans streamed across the border to mind farms and ranches while US manpower was in WWII. They kinda helped win the war by keeping the nation and it's troops fed.

They did it a second time, too.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

"undocumented"

Well, I mean, if they're undocumented they're already just one bad luck away from getting deported, the question is, how does he plan to catch them if they're not getting caught already?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

They're hitting the detain button immediately.

[–] whygohomie@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What a convenient pretext to round up Beijing's wishlist of exiles.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 minutes ago

Orange Man baths in social credits.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

First they came for...

[–] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

"It's not the Greeks, it's the Chinese he's after"

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