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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 hour ago

I get that TikTok, YT Shorts, and Facenook slowly removes attention span, but how the fuck does it cause Amnesia for everything that happened before 2020?

Trump literally removed holding time limitations and changed the Criminal Only ICE focus of previous administrations so they could put women and children in cages deport children alone to random South American nations citing some ancient treaties.

This already fucking happened. All of it.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 3 points 31 minutes ago

Stephen “nazi” Miller wants to create an army from Trump loyal national guard members and go into “blue” states to enforce deportation.

I doubt they’ll check if you’re a criminal or not.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

Its only for the federal definition of criminal. That definition is extremely broad on a good day. Bad days are just gonna get broader

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

"Why didn't literally everyone tell me that the racist genocidal maniac was a racist genocidal maniac?"

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 20 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm honestly terrified as a naturalized citizen that he's going to either try to revoke my citizenship or ignore it altogether :/

[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 1 points 15 minutes ago (1 children)

Birthright citizenship is on the chopping block

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 minutes ago

If they're allowed to carry out their plans in full, will there even BE any path to citizenship? Mine isn't birthright, but I don't trust them to look to revoke it.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 7 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

“If you’re here illegally, you better be looking over your shoulder.”

They've also mentioned along the lines of "if you are here illegally, then you've already committed a crime".

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

The fun part is, it's not actually a crime. That's why they use immigration judges and not criminal ones.

[–] Maiznieks@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is going on a mission to skim all alleys for those that are eating pets.

When I was 6, I bit my rabbit in retaliation after he bit me, does that count?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump.

Are white people exempt from that or why did you choose that wording?

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I chose that wording because Trump is a massive racist and yet all these minority groups he's openly shit on still voted for him and they can get fucked.

Because yeah Mr. "Build the wall" is totally gonna have your back.

[–] VerticaGG@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Oh and everybody fucking clapped. Get over yourself because while you do whatever the fuck this is, real ones are out there building solidarity and dual power. Snap out of your neoliberal yesteryear and into the reality that what matters now is a.) channels/orgs for mutual aid b) Solidarity Economies (aka folks having a foothold in their local economies and c) Encouraging anti-authoritarian parenting methods.

We are in this mess because we want that EZ fix. Just vote against (obtuse, christo-)fascism so you can go back to bed for 4-8 years (while magrinalized folks get to suffer) -- Instead of looking at the big picture.

You know who looked at the big picture and built (astroturfed anyway) grassroots? All these right wing ghouls.

Im not gonna rewrite this for every clown at the top of every thread playing the blame game.

Get involved. Engage prefigurative politics. Identify the root causes and move on to the solutions.

Or keep yelling at scarecrows you imagine. Just dont be surprised if that turns you into someone people dont want to be around.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 17 minutes ago

Since you are so much against voting I have good news for you: You wont have to ever vote again now! There wont be free elections in america again after all

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

Solidarity? Really? Where was the solidarity when the choice was an obvious fascist or literally anything else? Zero fuckin sympathy for the people that voted for the man who openly said he was gonna make their lives harder. The man who openly said he's gonna deport as many people as he can. The man who's openly been a steaming pile of shit since his first fuckin presidential run.

They voted to fuck themselves over and I'm supposed to help them? Lay in the bed of shit you made and fuck right the fuck off.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world -2 points 1 hour ago

This is the response I didn't have the mental energy to write. Thank you.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I sincerely hope you're never in a position of authority.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.

I'm not gonna feel sorry for the guy that willingly cut off his nose to spite his face.

[–] superkret@feddit.org -3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Sorry I have no sympathy for those that vote against their self interests.

So you don't have sympathy for >99% of the American voters.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 1 hour ago

No, just the 1% who threw their vote away.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

At this point I don't have sympathy for 99% of humanity let alone Americans. History has shown me we'll make the wrong choice almost every single time and at this point I just want humanity to die out and quit poisoning the world.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 51 minutes ago

Tried twice. Decided I'd stick around to see what kinda shitshow would form. Not surprised in the slightest that we've once again taken 10 steps backward.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 40 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (13 children)

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

So long, Carlos.

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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (3 children)

As someone posted in another thread, the mass deportations of Mexicans in the late 1920s/early 1930s ended up deporting American born Mexicans as well. So yeah, America deported actual American citizens because they didn't care or couldn't be bothered to check papers or whatever. Who's to say that isn't going to happen this time around?

Also, Trump said Latinos have a "murder gene," so he already thinks they're all criminals of some sort.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Everyone without white skin needs to get a passport and maintain a line of getting it. I.e. if you get fast deported you can have a family member mail it to you in Mexico.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago

Unlawful deportations happen all the time everywhere. It will happen and probably happened quite often in the last years

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This happened in operation wetback under the Eisenhower admin. So it happened after wwii as well.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They will grab anyone they can get their hands on. Criminals will have the advantage that they know how to hide, and there are way more non-criminals, so Jose Average will be picked first, being the easiest target to fulfill the quota.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Also while some peoples definition of criminal is "murderer" or similar some peoples definition is closer to "you did or a relative did something not 100% legal in the last generation or two.

edit: some peoples definition of criminal will definitely include unhoused or non-land owning eventually

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It already includes being homeless. The anti camping bans are straight up making it illegal to camp without a house to go back to.

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