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Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

I sincerely wish the absolute worst on any marginalized group that voted for Trump. You have nothing but my deepest sincere disgust and deserve whatever happens to you.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 minutes ago

I sincerely hope you're never in a position of authority.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 28 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (11 children)

"A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too," said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

So long, Carlos.

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[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

As someone posted in another thread, the mass deportations of Mexicans in the late 1920s/early 1930s ended up deporting American born Mexicans as well. So yeah, America deported actual American citizens because they didn't care or couldn't be bothered to check papers or whatever. Who's to say that isn't going to happen this time around?

Also, Trump said Latinos have a "murder gene," so he already thinks they're all criminals of some sort.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

Everyone without white skin needs to get a passport and maintain a line of getting it. I.e. if you get fast deported you can have a family member mail it to you in Mexico.

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 2 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

This happened in operation wetback under the Eisenhower admin. So it happened after wwii as well.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They will grab anyone they can get their hands on. Criminals will have the advantage that they know how to hide, and there are way more non-criminals, so Jose Average will be picked first, being the easiest target to fulfill the quota.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Also while some peoples definition of criminal is "murderer" or similar some peoples definition is closer to "you did or a relative did something not 100% legal in the last generation or two.

edit: some peoples definition of criminal will definitely include unhoused or non-land owning eventually

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago* (last edited 57 seconds ago)

It already includes being homeless. The anti camping bans are straight up making it illegal to camp without a house to go back to.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

Aren't criminals already being deported if they are caught? He was clear that he is after immigrants (in some speeches illegal, but in some even legal)

[–] islands@lemmy.cafe 38 points 5 hours ago

How can anyone listen to Trump's racist rants about shit hole countries and walk away thinking "he doesn't mean me"? He absolutely means you. There's about to be a whole lot of faces meeting some very hungry leopards.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 33 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

What part of "mass deportations" do people not understand? Trump told us what he's going to do. His cabinet pick told us what he's going to do. They're going to do it.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

The trump admin couldn't be bothered to keep the children and parents together while caging immigrants last time--why would anyone expect him to differentiate the legals from the illegals?

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 47 points 7 hours ago

They made "migrating" a crime, so, yeah, leopards...face...

[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 148 points 9 hours ago

Smokers hope cancer reaches only 'bad people'

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 17 points 6 hours ago

Very foolish people. Get ready to find a new home.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 32 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Ummmmm Conservatives already see them as criminals because they are here "illegal". By default all undocumented migrants are criminals.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (8 children)

Trump also said he'd aggressively deport and sort through the mistakes later. He's going to deport legal immigrants too, and I very much doubt they'll let them back in without an extensive legal battle. Which will never move forward because he'll intentionally starve the court system (like congress already did at his order) so that realistically, they will never get through the system.

Great fucking job giving Nazis free reign, you stupid, stupid, evil fuckers. You had a choice to fight nazis when it was easy. Just a vote. But you chose nazis, one way or another.

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[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 102 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone that thinks that it's going to be only 'criminals' that get deported forget that crossing the border without documentation is a crime. Yeah, it's a misdemeanor, but it's still a crime, and the Trump administration is still going to deport them when they can.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 70 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Adjudicating whether or not someone is guilty of a crime, or in the US illegally, requires a trial. Doing that for millions of people all of a sudden within a system that’s already backed up by more than a year is completely impossible.

In other words, they are absolutely talking about deporting innocent people of the wrong ethnicity without any attempt at due process, and anyone who thinks different is living in a dream world. And then, once they’re done with that batch, they plan to move on to other classes of undesirables.

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[–] Breve@pawb.social 6 points 5 hours ago

My face is too good looking to be eaten by the face eating leopards!

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 48 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I'm worried they're going to start raiding schools and daycares as well in order to force parents to turn themselves in or just to be malicious. A lot of children are going to be separated from their parents.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 67 points 9 hours ago (12 children)

you all understand this is about racism, right? this is a giant dog whistle for rounding up non-white people and getting them the fuck out of their white nationalist dream.

its not about crime, or which immigrants are good or bad. its about kicking out the brown peoples. its easy to manipulate racist voters. they are all ignorant cowards.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 33 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

All those Muslim folks who voted for Trump to "punish" Harris are in for a rude awakening. This isn't only about Hispanics.

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