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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This line of thinking is misguided at best, utter bullshit and a cynical poke in the eye at worst.

The reason a demented corrupt rapist sociopath won is media.

Propaganda, if you prefer. Fixing it entails a complete overhaul of our corporate media system. It requires education on media literacy, when we can’t even say gay or teach about slavery.

Are there improvements to be made in the DNC platform? Absolutely. Always. Are some Democratic politicians useless for resistance? Hell yes, and they should be metaphorically pelted with rocks and garbage.

But this “why did democrats lose - lets look at the messaging” is UTTER HORSESHIT. Wrong. Engaging in that conversation is to miss the point entirely - which is exactly what corporate media would prefer that you do.

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Non-paywalled link: https://archive.ph/nRRtZ

I might agree that the Democrats need to strip down messaging to better concentrate on winning back working class voters, but arguing that progressives are the reason the party sucks is looney. Progressives are the main group screaming about wealth inequality!

Kamala failed to convince voters that the Democrats would address the issues affecting their wallets. She mentioned some policies that I think would help, but she also said that she wouldn’t do anything different from Biden. I think that was a major disqualifier for her among voters. Biden isn’t responsible for the economic effects from the pandemic, but he was still in charge, so some people are going to blame him. Saying you’re not going to do anything different doesn’t inspire confidence.

I know that things won’t get better for the average person under Trump, but Kamala and the rest of the Democrats need a major fucking wake up call. If they want to win again, they’ll stop cozying up to billionaires and start fighting hard for the working class.

Anything that doesn’t focus on the class war is ultimately a distraction. Start winning the class war, and then the party will get strong enough to do something for everyone - including special interests.

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

When they stop getting paid.

[–] echo@lemmings.world -1 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Most democrats are selfish fucking assholes that won't even vote for their own candidate if their personal pet idea isn't front and center. This has been true for ages... Republicans get behind their candidate even if they fucking hate the candidate.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Eeeeeeeh a lot of those "pet ideals" are often quite the opposite of selfish. So I don't think it's quite the right term.

Letting perfect be the enemy of achievable isn't about selfishness. Arrogance or ignorance sure. But not really selfishness in this case. They mean well, just not bright enough to do well.

[–] droporain@lemmynsfw.com -4 points 2 hours ago

This is bullshit Democrats got theirs fuck you. Just like the Republicucks. Only the idiots are breeding and passing their dumb fucking lack of logic down. Imagine a country of people who have elected to let Joe "rush Limbaugh" Rogan shit directly into their brains.