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[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 3 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

My boss wasn't forcing me to use the metaverse to produce uninspired, low effort garbage to rip off my clients. You didn't have loser "metaverse artists" fannying about everywhere. Bring back the metaverse talk, as dumb as it was, please!

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I preferred metaverse talk. All of it was obviously useless nonsense that would never go anywhere. It could be safely ignored and laughed at. Simple times.

In contrast, not ALL of AI is useless nonsense. It takes more brain power to think about.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Ah, i miss metaverse-shilling posts on LinkedIn, praising the visionary, prophet, mastermind Zuckerberg, telling me I will have to attend meetings in VR set

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

I don't know, I am both interested in AI and metaverse (and AR/VR in general), it's just I don't care what greedy corporations do with them.

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 44 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

The current TechBro fetish, just like the Metaverse was, and the NFTs, and the Crypto.

When the bubble burst, which will be the next TechBro fetish?

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 0 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

Hopefully suicide 🤞🤞

[–] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Quantum computing. It would have already been but it still has a very nerdy, no real-world application vibe.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

Well the real world application is breaking nearly all existing encryption.

Criminals and spies are going to have a field day once it becomes practical.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

It only breaks asymmetric encryption like SSL and PGP. The strength of symmetric encryption, like you have with password protected files and drive volumes, is reduced somewhat but should still be more than sufficient.

And like the other commenter said, there are asymmetric algorithms that are quantum-safe, they just aren't in widespread use (though apparently just this year NIST announced a standard for lattice based cryptography).

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

I could swear we've been preparing for that day for a decade now

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

The new asymmetric quantum safe algos are coming though.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

With classic cryptography being broken that also opens the need for quantum cryptography and commnications. China is a bit farther ahead of us on this launching their first satellite encorporating these concepts in 2020:

"The nation’s Micius satellite successfully established an ultrasecure link between two ground stations separated by more than 1,000 kilometers" source

China is launching a second newer generation satellite next year. source

[–] sxan@midwest.social 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Only, NFTs and Crypto are relatively accessible; anyone can get in on the game. The Metaverse is a monopoly.

The bubbles are still going, BTW. Bitcoin prices are currently higher than they have ever been, thanks to America re-electing the Fascist Orangutan.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The Metaverse is the invention of Neal Stephenson in his book Snow Crash. He incidentally also invented the word cyber space IIRC.

It's cool, I want it. Not the crap that fuckberg tries to push on people like used bubblegum but the real thing.

A shame VR makes me vomit...

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

VR sickness is not a permanent thing. You can train it away. You can also just do stuff that doesn't cause it in the first place. But I recommend training it away, cuz some of the best VR content is the stuff that would cause VR sickness to people that still get it.

[–] Nighed@feddit.uk 1 points 40 minutes ago

Any advice on how? I would love to be able to play vr racing games etc

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well, yes. Of course you're right that "metaverse" predates Facebook. They've successfully co-opted it by now, though; Meta is what the average person thinks of when you say "metaverse." Stephenson's was also fictional, unless you're really generous and use "metaverse" as a synonym for "the internet."

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It wasn't a fictional internet, but a 3D VR world.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

In the books, yes. It didn't exist IRL, and a poorly as it was done, FB's metaverse was (is?) a real product.

Facebook/Meta has never had an original idea; I'm not trying to give them credit for anything. There were other VR "worlds" before FB's (Sony's, for example, which was also a failure).

I just found out that Steve Jackson Games actually owns the trademark to the name "Metaverse." I'll bet that drove Zuck nuts.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

So you mean we have to make a FOSS one now :-) ?

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Metaverse is just a VR implementation, like Second Life or VRChat. My point is: In a broader sense it's not a monopoly; only if you are hellbent on wanting a feature only that implementation offers, you have no choice.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Yah, you're right. Like I said, when you say "Metaverse" most people (on the street) are going to think of Meta's. I doubt most people in even developed countries even remember Sony's failed VR world.

Is there another networked VR world that is anywhere near as big as Meta's today? With nearly as many users (even with as much of a ghost town as it purportedly is)?

I think you were talking about a hypothetical metaverse, whereas I was thinking about the only one that I know that has any traction - tenuous though it may be - at all, which is Meta's.

[–] FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 26 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Metaverse 2 - now with AI!

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

But is it on the blockchain?

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 10 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

metaverse 3 will use ai 2 which is on the blockchain

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Can we jam some crypto and NFTs into that bad boy?

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 20 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't remember people talking about the metaverse except for mocking the legless mii inspired avatars.

There were a lot of ads pretending to be articles.

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

Bring back Miiverse

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ai could have a lot of benefits. Just not in the hands of megacorps

[–] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

And not when it requires a crazy amount of resources to run.

[–] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

If its not in the hand of megacorps that implies that it s "lightweight"

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

We can have AI control our metaverse avatars so we can ignore them both.

[–] owlboy@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

VRChat is still slowly growing in the background.

The metaverse that was the hype you despise isn’t the metaverse people in VRChat want. Mark really destroyed the term.

[–] 0laura@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

the meta verse is peak, just not from Facebook. looking forward to whatever comes after vrchat.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

The meta verse was kinda fun to talk about, though. Because it was a train wreck.