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[–] scripthook@lemmy.world 10 points 9 hours ago

I use New Pipe for android and Freetube for desktop. I have all the YouTube premium features at $0 cost and no ads hehe

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Don't worry, simply pay for Youtube Premium+ to get rid of ads on Premium!

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 37 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I'd bet that channel "members" don't get ads for that channel regardless of premium status.

IMO, Google made premium, almost nobody bought it. So they went after adblockers, hoping that people would get premium to get rid of the ads. People most just Adblock harder.

While this is happening, one exec is peering over the fence at twitch. Where they only way to get away from ads without a pretty good Adblock, is to subscribe to the individual creator.

So they make "memberships" to channels a thing.

Almost nobody buys that either. So they go... What if, even if someone is premium, we give them ads, unless they're a channel member.

Genius.

Paying to block ads per creator/channel/whatever, is a special level of bullshit that twitch has always had.

The system is working as expected. The companies are trying to find the best way to extract the most value from you using their platform.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

People are buying memberships though?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago

Usually you see this for creatora like vtubers.
I like them but I will never consider memberships. At best I will sub to an actual service like floatplane or nebula

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is all conjecture right?

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Indeed. I have absolutely no way of knowing anything for certain.

I'm just screaming into the void from this hellscape we call Earth.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Hi, would you like to try Youtube Premium PLATINUM for only another $2.99? It's EVEN MORE ad-free! We mean it!

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The second i see an ad in cancelling my subscription

[–] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago
[–] dog_@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Grayjay be like

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago
[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 6 points 14 hours ago

Suckers paying for it

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago (8 children)

u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,

Seems like the user tracking "special promotion" overrides the premium. They don't even say whether it's expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 12 points 17 hours ago

That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That's "fine" (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).

However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago

Well yes, you didn't get first ads. But what about second ads?

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn't that interesting and relevant.

[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

That part of the support email almost made me puke of how fucking awful it was. "Why complain about ads when you get YouTube Music for free by paying us money"

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

I would cancel that subscription SOOO FAST.

I'd argue that YTMusic is a superior product to YT, but both put together aren't worth anywhere near the cost. You can get a premium TV/Movie service for that price with family access.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That's fun

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[–] mlen@awful.systems 29 points 1 day ago

ublock is cheaper and actually works

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.

[–] doughless@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Wait, I haven't seen ads on YouTube Premium (yet), and I'm just now realizing this could very likely be because Google knows my wife and I don't watch sports.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

What I find the most hilarious is that on a rooted Android phone there is an app that hooks into the YouTube app and eliminates adds in it. Even when my PC with Firefox and UBlock get temporarily blocked in the battle between Google and ad blockers my phone using the standard app still doesn't have adds.

I don't know something about it is very satisfying to me.

[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

ReVanced works without rooting the phone

[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Do you mind sharing the name of the app please?

Although I always use NewPipe / Tubular and Revanced as a backup solution.

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's an LSposed/XPosed based app called YouTube Adaway. It also enables background playback.

[–] cellardoor@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Just use Grayjay.

Or if not that amazing app, the Revanced app.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 14 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Firebox mobile + unlock origin extension + YouTube.com.

You get everything that YouTube premium can offer. Including screen off play.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

Good, I hope they raise pricing too and pay creators even less. Make it hurt. It's the only language users understand apparently.

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 145 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If this goes live, I'm out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I'm OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I'll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (15 children)

If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.

If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.

Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why don’t you just cancel it now and use ad blockers?

Joel explains this in the second sentence: "I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers"

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[–] puntyyoke@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Reasonable advice, but I'd note that I pay for premium and patreon specifically because I can only afford patreon for a few creators. I'd rather pay everyone I watch. While YouTube isn't perfect, I like the service enough that I don't mind paying for it.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I use it because it came with Play Music, now YouTube Music. I'll just switch to Spotify if I see them.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 14 hours ago

I stopped using streaming platforms personally and just went back to pirating music. Personally I don’t want to support Spotify because they continue to support far-right ideology with their podcasts, but that’s a completely personal decision.

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[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 139 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess they are premium ads?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

this but unironically

advertisers paid a premium

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster

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