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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When I was 10 i was told to be home when the street lights came on. Otherwise my parents rarely knew where I was. Kids these days aren’t going to be able to function independently when they grow up if they can’t even take a walk on their own.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

* Safety Warning * - You just said "Kids these days." The next step down that slippery slope is "Get off my lawn!"

This has been a public service from the Internet Safety Association.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 day ago

Now the 10 year old can do everything alone

[–] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying this didn't happen, but I'm skeptical that it happened how it's being reported. It seems the only details are coming from the mother and her attorney, which is a red flag to me. It also sounds a lot like the self reported "discrimination" that some fundamentalist Christian influencer families have claimed, when they were indeed neglecting/abusing their children. In particular the Lott family (AmericanFamilyRoadTrip on socials) who live in a bus with their 8 children, don't get them medical attention unless forced, and recently got a "parents rights" attorney who sounded a lot like the attorney in this article.

I also find it odd that the sheriff of a town of less than 400 people would cause waves like this over an unfounded claim from a stranger. I'm curious to know what all this safety plan entails, because it could be a very reasonable plan and it's likely that DCFS just has to meet certain criteria before they can close the case.

Again, not saying it didn't happen, but the story seems like a good candidate for "missing reasons."

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (6 children)

the story seems like a good candidate for “missing reasons.”

Which is interesting as it's coming from reason.com

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

More and more 70s-90s SNL skits are coming to life for real.

First one I remember was when the Gillette Track 2 twin-bladed razor came out. The ads showed an animation of how the first blade pulls the whisker out slightly, then the second blade cuts it off, allowing what's left to snap back below the skin for a super-close shave. SNL made a parody ad for a triple-bladed razor where the second blade pulls it out even more and the third one cuts it. The slogan was: "the new Track 3 - because you'll believe ANYTHING!" Within a year there were actual triple-bladed razors.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn, I used to walk home from the bus stop that was 1/2 mile away when I was in kindergarten. These people need to calm down.

[–] jacecomix@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Some of these same people will complain about how kids these days don't play outside.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Reported to police for walking less than a mile into town on a road that was 25 - 35 mph speed limit...

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Imagine getting jailed unless you ground your kids 24/7. Pretty sure that used to be a punishment for kids, not a requirement.

I know this is probably not possible if I still wish to use English online, but does anybody know how to filter out news specifically form America? It's becoming less and less relevant to my life as America is becoming more and more like Russia. It's like yea, I know, the people are literal fascists, any additional details are just depressing.

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[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I want jail to not be the default setting in this country.

Maybe she's a shitty parent, but that's something that can be worked on. She can be taught. It's not like she's some kind of soulless paycopath going from house to house traumatizing all the kids. There is absolutely no need to lock his person up.

And now that she's locked up, the kid has no parent at all. Does anyone really think this is the best solution?

I wish my people weren't so fucking lazy. Do the work. Figure something else out. Find out how to address this individual's needs without just waving your hand and saying, put her in jail and move on.

[–] BatmanAoD@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

For what it's worth, she was "quickly" released on bail (the article doesn't say how quickly), and the prosecution is not seeking further jail time but rather for the mom to sign a "safety plan" (although not signing could indeed lead to a year of jail time).

Your point is correct, but "the kid has no parent at all" isn't (currently) true.

[–] ViscloReader@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That would be admitting this country ain't safe enough for a child. Doomer world

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 231 points 2 days ago (19 children)

Dunno how I'd have gotten home from school or to soccer practice if I needed an adult, ffs I was staying alone overnight and cooking dinner for myself by 5th grade. How do you acquire independence and skills with someone hovering all the fucking time?

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 169 points 2 days ago (2 children)

we have infantalized children all the way through high school. no more open campuses, nothing. we live in a world where an 18 year old high school senior has to ask to use the restroom during the day, but could go to her night job as a porn star.

the main issue is parents suing school districts over any little thing, requiring them now to lock everyone down or else

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 76 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Nah the real issue is that people will cave in to those helicopter parents making everyone else deal with whatever insanity they force onto their children's

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Fuck that county and DA. I hope she wins. Bullshit. My 15 year old is out right now with his friends. My kids walk to and from school. Double fuck the old cunt who called the cops to begin with.

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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This is reason.com, famously a libertarian propaganda mill. Safe to completely ignore.

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 156 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"You're guilty of leaving your child alone, therefore we're taking you away from your child."

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Thats like the bank charging a fee for insufficent funds.

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[–] adp1314@lemmy.world 97 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I started walking to school when I was eight. My parents made sure I knew the way and that was that. And on our bikes we went wayyy farther than a mile unsupervised

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago

My oldest (8) bikes to school nearly every day.

His younger brother is allowed to walk to school next year when he is 6.

It is fairly normal here for kids, that are above 6/7, to walk to and from school if it isn't too far.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago

Do you visit them in jail?

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[–] Leeks@lemmy.world 133 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Based on the safety plan including “installing a location tracking app on the child’s phone”, the kid has a phone and could easily call for help or be called if there was a concern.

Children used to ride bikes much farther then a mile without even a quarter in their pocket to pay for a phone call.

[–] BarbudoGrande@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never needed money when you could call collect and when prompted for a name you gave a speedy, "mom pick me up at the mall!!" And of course she'd decline the call.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 60 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Adam_Walsh

This is what started this panic. A TV movie dramatization from 1983. At this point current parents largely weren't born yet so they don't even know how it started, they've just been raised into believing this is normal. It's not normal.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It’s also because most suburbs don’t have sidewalks and cycle paths and often lack safe crossings. Residential roads are so wide that drivers speed all the time. So kids have to be chauffeured around. Since they can’t even walk or cycle to school or soccer practice safely. That’s how it became the norm for kids to never go out alone. And people wonder why kids stay indoors all the time and play videogames or doom scroll on social media.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the real origins come from "do you know where you're children are?" PSA campaign during the Atlanta Child Murders in the 70s. My parents said they remember the whole country started locking their doors and were crazy about keeping their kids inside.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Yeah like as if God forbids any kids run around without being continuously tracked by Life360.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 days ago

Lol. When I was 10 me and a friend would take a bus TO ANOTHER COUNTRY and hang out at the arena to wait for the teams so we could get our hockey cards autographed.

I still have that niklas lidstrom rookie card.

[–] LowtierComputer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This post and posts like this should be taken with a big grain of salt.

There's not enough information supplied.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s not enough information supplied.

Business Insider has a substantial paywall version. It's an essay from Brittany Patterson read to a Jane Ridley, verified by Business Insider.

It's much more detailed and less flowery than Reason.

Mother of 4

Soren (tween in question) is homeschooled

Had to take another 1/4 to the doctor

Soren could not be found so they left him, they have 16 acres, she assumed he was outside

She took 1/4 to the doctor

Soren got bored and went to talk to a friend's grandmother that worked at a gas station, she wasn't there, he went to the Dollar Store, police brought him home.

Was stopped by a concerned neighbor, he ignored her and kept walking. She called the cops.

Deputy hauled her off, booked her and locked her up under arrest on a charge of wreckless conduct. Out on bail.

wreckless conduct: Daring or bold, but also irresponsible Willfully disregarding rules, norms, or social conventions Showing a lack of concern for consequences or potential harm to others

The deputy said it wasn't safe because it was a dangerous road. She said all kinds of things could have happened, including being kidnapped.

30 MPH road

Maybe he was doing something he REALLY shouldn't have been doing.

Maybe they had it out for her for truancy vs homeschooling

Maybe she REALLY pissed in the deputy's Wheaties,

Maybe it's not the first time?

Smalltown shenanigans, police overreach, nanny state neighbors are friends with the cops.

Take your pick; it might make a nice bingo card.

[–] Suffa@lemmy.wtf 96 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Americans have degenerated so fast.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 77 points 2 days ago (6 children)

All of Gen-X would like a word...

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago

These are the same people who say the left raises kids to be too soft.

They're raising the most sheltered, fragile, children imaginable. The only thing they'll truly learn is to obey authority, because the only adversity they'll ever face is their parents' rod.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 62 points 2 days ago

Nothing says small government like the police demanding you install spy software on your kids phone.

[–] theluddite@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

A few days later, DFCS presented Patterson with a "safety plan" for her to sign. It would require her to delegate a "safety person" to be a "knowing participant and guardian" and watch over the children whenever she leaves home. The plan would also require Patterson to download an app onto her son's phone allowing for his location to be monitored. (The day when it will be illegal not to track one's kids is rapidly approaching.)

Of course there's a grift train. I'd be very curious to know more about that company, its owners, and its financials.

Also tagging @abucci@buc.ci (can someone tell me how to do that right?). Seems like something that might interest you, re: our recent conversation.

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago

From a boring dystopia to a holy fuck that's scary dystopia.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What in the sweet ever loving fuck is this shit?

State mandated helicopter parenting?

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 52 points 2 days ago (7 children)

But I thought red states were bastions of freedom?

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