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Black voters went from

9 Biden - 1 Trump

to

8 Harris - 2 Trump.

What got Trump elected was white people. This article tries to paint a narrative which does not exist.

If it were up to black and latinos Harris would be president.

They're trying to group them all together, and that's not fair for this one. Around 78% of black men voted for Harris, as opposed to the around 44% of Latino men. They're trying to distract us from the fact that a good portion of this was from white voters by mentioning Latinos anyway. Like, "How did we vote facisim. We didn't vote for him." That's all I see articles for. Where are the articles breaking down why over 50% of white women voted for their own subjugation? They're so used to black people being the scape goat, they throw us in there even when we had little impact on it.

Why is the focus on Black men when fewer than 25% voted for Trump. Meanwhile more than double that percentage of white women voted for Trump. Where is the analysis of their bizarre voting behavior?

In some polls I've seen before the election, the top item for people -- this is in general, not a specific demographic -- who said that they would vote for Trump was the economy.

But you can break that down more than "economy". "Economy" can mean a lot of things. How the stock market is doing. Unemployment. Inflation.

And when people were asked about that, in the polling data I saw, prices were the top concern.

I commented well before the election and pointed out that inflation is extremely unpopular with publics. In a study -- and this is an old one, but apparently a well known one -- that looked at the public in Germany, the US, and Brazil, the public -- and particularly in Germany and the US -- said that they'd rather have a recession than inflation. That is significant, because in contrast, the mainstream economic position is that it's preferable for a country to have inflation than a recession.

I also listened to some interviews of people voting Trump, and a lot of people said "I was better-off under Trump than Biden".

My guess is that you can probably chalk a considerable amount of this up to:

• Not understanding that inflationary policies weren't simply adopted in isolation, but to avoid a recession resulting from COVID-19.

• Not knowing that it's normally considered that inflationary policy is preferable to a recession.

• Not knowing that the Trump administration also adopted inflationary policy.

I also remember reading some stuff going well back saying that in general, people tend to credit the President pretty directly for whatever the present state of the economy is. If there are issues, they put it at the feet of the President, and if it's going well, they put it at the feet of the President...even if the President didn't have much to do with it (or if it was actually policies from a prior administration that took time to have effect). So to some extent, the politics of being the President always, not just in a situation with a fair bit of inflation as we had stemming from COVID-19, have to do with that voter attribution to the President of the short-term state of the economy.

I'd also add that political organizations know this and will -- not always honestly -- aim to exacerbate that take.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/sep/08/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trump-on-the-scale-and-causes/

Donald Trump

stated on September 7, 2024 in a rally in Mosinee, Wis.:

Vice President Kamala Harris “cast the tiebreaking votes that caused the worst inflation in American history, costing a typical American family $28,000.”

So if one wants to avoid the executive being unreasonably penalized for -- or taking credit for -- the economic state of affairs, then there's probably a hard communication problem that hasn't been solved for decades and decades that needs to happen.

Boy, are they going to be surprised when the minimum wage goes down and what little worker protections US workers have are gone and the economy tanks because of Trump tarrifs and the retaliatory tarrifs from the rest of the world

God, this article is awful.

There's stuff like this:

A majority of voters nationally said Trump was a strong leader; slightly fewer than half said the same about Harris.

...which implies there's some significant difference here without giving you the specific numbers. Is this 51% to 49%? They go into the Latino specifics, but only for Trump, but even break it down further to say what percent of Latinos think Trump is strong versus the percentage of Latinas that think Trump is strong.

The AP is always held up as this infallibly unbiased source, but even if we agree that being unabashedly both-sides centrist is unbiased, that's not even close to what's happening here. To even remotely both-sides this you'd have to show all the people that think asking the question of Trump's strength is an absolute joke and it's bizarre we're even discussing it because the only people that believe in strongman leadership are literal fascists.

With respect to the actual headline and meat of the article, it also doesn't challenge the assumption that Trump would be better for the economy. If you're going to include people who were brainwashed into believing that, you have to juxtapose them with the endless historical precedents and current studies that show his policies will absolutely be detrimental to the economy. Even corporations are going to tank in the long term, because you can't steal from the working class forever.

By continuing Trump's campaign propaganda without serious challenge, this is a right-wing article in support of his administration. A more centrist article would say something closer to "Trump tricks public into believing he'll be better for the economy" because that's the reality of what happened.

Fuck this scapegoating bullshit.

Boy are they going to be disappointed

As we transition into full-blown tyranny, and the out-group begins to grow, I’m trying to educate myself about how to cope with it, survive and maybe even resist. I have found that discussions among black Americans online are extremely enlightening in this regard, presumably because they have existed forever in a precarious state, something like that which many more of us are about to be thrust. I’m not interested in scapegoating black males over this election. This happened because too many Americans are dumb fucks, ruled by emotions, and gullible as hell. End of story.

Going to be some well fed leopards next year when Trump starts deporting them.

This is the big zionist media lie they used to favour Trump.

"More pro business" does not mean better economy and jobs. It just means making the oligarchs even richer.

If media keeps telling you Biden economy is shit, even when its not, you have to be very economically sophisticated to know they are lying for Trump/GOP.

There will be no tax breaks for tips, overtime, or social security. These are not Republican "values". Only slavery is. Tax cuts for corporations and rich will happen. Tariffs and antagonizing world will not reindustrialize America.

Media enabling a confident liar, with massive Zionist money, is what got him elected.

We look forward to the job and economic opportunities that the asteroid will provide.

Ah yes, the usual blaming of minorities for all the democrats that didn't show up.

Work will set them free unfortunately

the fuck is gonna happen to the price of [whatever the fuck] when there's 20% tariffs on everything, a shortage of labor, and the fed issues 8 trillion in bonds?

I expected this after watching Khalid Attaf videos of talking to customers in his family's gas station/convenience store. It was depressing to see the reasons people were planning to vote this way. If you watch this, save at least a thread of sanity and don't read the comments.

https://youtu.be/E-Il-hLjKGY

I guess the work camps will count as a job. Good job!

Lol. I ain't touching this shit with a sky track forklift with a 20 ft boom

I guess we had Too Much rising wages and record unemployment that it made them all nervous of when the fuckening was going to happen.

I expect many posts in the "leopards ate my face" category from that group.

You gon learn today...