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After one Trump presidency and on the eve of another, it is now clear that a once mighty global superpower is allowing its gaze to turn inward, to feed off resentment more than idealism, to think smaller.

Public sentiment – not just the political class – feels threatened by the flow of migrants once regarded as the country’s lifeblood. Global trade, once an article of faith for free marketeers and architects of the postwar Pax Americana, is now a cancer eating away at US prosperity – its own foreign invasion.

Military alliances and foreign policy no longer command the cross-party consensus of the cold war era, when politics could be relied upon to “stop at the water’s edge”, in the famous formulation of the Truman-era senator Arthur Vandenberg.

Now the politics don’t stop at all, for any reason. And alliances are for chumps.

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[–] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 111 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes. When you elect a convicted criminal fascist with no guard rails or restraints, this will be the end of the United States as we know it.

Fascism has come.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 66 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes. One of the parties has embraced dictatorship. Democracy cannot continue in that environment.

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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I still think a bloody class war would go a long way.

[–] NJSpradlin@lemmy.world 68 points 4 days ago (2 children)

More than half your class is too busy licking their boots to unite against them. They’re grateful for the scraps they’re being given, while worshipping their masters.

[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I completely agree. That’s why Fox News exists. It was meant to create the bootlickers, and create the division.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

There's a lot more than Fox out there echoing the narrative that times are hard, inflation is killing you, and there aren't enough homes to go around. Wapo and NYT would happily recount Trump's claims that it's because immigrants are taking all the houses and jobs while Biden policies are making everything expensive. Doesn't matter if they follow up with long-winded explanations that his claims aren't true, because most people stop listening when they hear there's someone to blame.

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[–] john89@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Everyone reading this right now should recognize that America will be on a steady decline for the rest of our lives.

There's no point in waiting for it to improve. There's no point in waiting for it to fall.

Just accept that it is a trend that will not end while we are still living. Don't waste your life waiting for the day that never comes.

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 45 points 4 days ago
[–] hohoho@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago

Right wing propaganda networks pumping out fear of immigrants 24/7 was all too successful. We need to find ways to combat this and the type of drivel this article purveys. We have to find ways of coming together instead of letting these populist movements divide and conquer.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

There are worse ways to spend your life than chasing the American dream. But once you've found it, like I did in Vegas, what's called the old Psychiatrist's Club, then it is kind of puzzling. You feel kind of naked and alone out there, because once you've found the dream, it is generally just a slab of burned-out concrete in Las Vegas called the old Psychiatrist's Club, then it's kind of hard to go on from there on the same.

  • Hunter S. Thompson, November 1, 1977, Lecture at the University of Colorado (Boulder)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Yes.

Yes it is.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

The american dream hasn't been a reality for decades

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It was an obvious lie decades ago. Nothing has changed

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh yes it's changed alright, the lie has become bigger.
Consider the TV show married with children, a shoe salesman is married and has 2 children a house and a car, on a single lower end income.
And it wasn't completely unrealistic back in the late 80's to mid 90's.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 37 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Here's a very brief explanation of what happened.

In 1960 minimum wage was $1.00/hour and the price of the average US home was $11,000.00 A popular tour guide was called "Europe on $5.00 A Day" [over the years they did specific cities like Paris or Rome or London...]

In 1964 LBJ decides that he can win the War in Vietnam with a massive buildup and increased bombings. He prints paper money to pay for it, because he doesn't want to raise taxes. The plan is a miserable failure and protests force LBJ to step aside. In 1968 we elect 'peace candidate' Nixon [who sabotaged the Paris Peace Talks]

Nixon kept LBJ's plan and increased spending. He knew the War was unwinnable but thought he could kick the problem down the road and let the 1976 President deal with 'losing' the war.

By 1976 inflation was a major problem, not helped by the Arab Oil Boycott that tripled the price of gas overnight. All those cool loft buildings you see in places like Manhattan used to be small factories making things like purses, clothing, toys etc etc. The owners moved the businesses to the US south where there were fewer Unions.

Jimmy Carter hired a man named Paul Volker to deal with inflation. Carter got voted out before the Volker plan could kick in, so Reagan got the credit for Carter's ideas.

Reagan's own Veep, George HW Bush called the Reaganomics trickle down "voo doo economics" until Reagan offered him the #2 spot on his ticket.

In 1968, when Nixon started waging War with paper money, "middle class" was one Union job paying for a family of four with a nice savings account. In those days, $1 million was still considered a vast fortune. By 1992, when Bush Sr. was finished, middle class was two incomes to run the house and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That almost sounds like you are blaming LBJ. Nixon was the one who caused the 1970 economic disaster that led to everything after. He ended the gold Standard and gave unfettered power to banks. Inflation was the goal as inflation directly benefitted real estate. The owner class became obscenely rich quickly, and it never stopped.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 10 points 4 days ago

LBJ thought he could win Vietnam with a single bold stroke. Nixon knew the War was unwinnable, but once the US forces were bogged down he kept redoubling down. LBJ made a terrible mistake, but it was Nixon who really screwed things up.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"late 80s to mid 90s"

Calm down cowboy! Grunge music didn't come from nowhere, the X generation started to feel the pain in the 80s with high unemployment, McJobs and crazy interest rates! Things didn't look good for them either!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 4 days ago

lights tip of rag protruding from bottle

Or is it just the beginning?

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We deserve it. We voted for it.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Fuck no we didn't. The problem is a huge chunk of people who normally pretend to care took the fucking day off.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Always has been. It's just that the thin veneer that was always on top has now has come off.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No. There really was a time when FDR's New Deal raised millions out of poverty and gave them a taste of the good life.

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