this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2023
340 points (97.2% liked)

News

23305 readers
5390 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Huhni@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago (35 children)

That wouldn't have happened if the 1-year-old had a gun 🤔

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

Or if the family lived almost anywhere else in the world.

load more comments (34 replies)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (13 children)

lock the parents up and get that kid some lifelong counseling.

as a gun owner... I find not locking up your weapons abhorrent.

[–] HolyDiver@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

as a non American I find owning guns abhorrent but to each their own

[–] Wolf@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a hunter I own quite a few, but guess what? They are all fucking locked up in a safe and I don’t have any children, just my wife and I. How anyone could have children and think it’s ok to leave a firearm around is asinine.

[–] stringere@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I took away my son's bb and pellet guns because I caught him waving his rifle around like a toy.

"But it wasn't loaded!"

"Then you obviously forgot or ignored the very first thing I taught you."

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As an Italian surrounded by guns who has them and hates them but might need to ruin my life by defending myself against a crazed neighbor... They're abhorrent. There's no good that comes from a gun.

[–] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

There are several reasons go own a gun in the US. Should we have as many as we do? Absolutely not. But we have a lot of wild and dangerous animals and you don't have to get far from a city center to encounter them. We also have several invasive species we keep down via strategic hunting. Feral pigs being one of them. They're very dangerous and near impossible to get rid of once they're there.

The US could definitely do with at least having the Canadian system where guns are highly tracked by the government (and they should be), but until i don't see coyotes and random bullshit like that wandering around my suburban area, I still guy why you'd want one. I say this as someone who had never owned a gun, nor wants to own one for various reasons.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] NickDangerThirdEye@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Agreed, as terrible a thing as it is to happen to a parent it needs to be punished when this occurs. Someone was obviously negligent with a gun around a child. If it was put away properly this wouldn't have happened.

[–] sci@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

But how can i enjoy my right to bear arms if my weapons are locked up

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

To the rest of the world, this would be an exceedingly rare headline.

For Americans, it is just any other Tuesday.

[–] HandOfDoom@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

American solution: put the 3yo in prison for forced labour and arm all 1 year olds so they can defend themselves.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gun manufacturers: heavy breathing

[–] sadbehr@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

Use the 3 year olds in prison to make the guns for the 1 year olds to arm themselves! Fuckin bang two for one.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] provisional@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

Then send thoughts and prayers when it happens over and over again. We've done nothing to fix the problem and there's nothing we can do about it!

[–] mightysashiman@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the 2 common culprits in all these horrible stories are: 1) human stupidity 2) gun proliferation. solving the first would require eugenism. solving the second is a big american no-no. So don’t call it horrible, just live with it. It’s just a normal by-product of american culture.

[–] Ichi_matsu@ttrpg.network 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

IMHO solving 1 needed educations, but that’s also a big American no-no, so we’re back to square one.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] damnYouSun@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (16 children)

Why would the gun be loaded? At the very least the gun and the ammo should be separated.

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

You are 100% correct but that loops is back to #1.

load more comments (15 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

It's not immediately clear if any parents were in the home at the time of the shooting.

I guess it tracks that if they left a toddler and a baby in the house alone, they'd also be irresponsible enough to leave a weapon just sitting out unsecured and loaded. What a tragedy.

[–] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

The only way to stop a bad baby with a gun is a good baby with a gun.

[–] sadbehr@lemmy.nz 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sending yet more thoughts and prayers /s.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Tetra@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

Clearly we need to arm 1 year olds so they can defend themselves

[–] BlackMark3tBaby@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 year ago

"As of July 12, there have been at least 217 unintentional shootings by children, which have resulted in 76 deaths and 149 injuries so far in 2023, according to a count by the gun control nonprofit Everytown for Gun Safety"

[–] MasterObee@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Trigger locks are not hard to get and are inexpensive.

I'm iffy on more gun control, but if there is something I'd want to do, it'd be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

[–] Ataraxia@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The average American is too dumb to own guns and I say this from a household with several guns. Seriously would rather not have them if that means idiots and the mentally unstable don't either.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Reputable gun shops provide them free of charge w/ every sale.

/gun collector

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

...it’d be requiring businesses to provide a trigger lock with each sale.

Pretty much is in the State of California. This is yet another instance of someone not following the basic god damned rules of firearm safety.

You can only do so much to encourage gun safety, but when you get to this point I think it's only fitting to charge the gun owner with a felony and forbid them from ever owning a firearm again.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›