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Summary

Donald Trump’s re-election raises questions about the fate of his ongoing legal battles.

Facing 34 felony convictions and several federal and state charges, Trump could attempt to leverage presidential immunity to delay or dismiss cases.

Judge Juan Merchan will soon rule on whether immunity applies to Trump’s New York case involving hush-money payments, potentially canceling his sentencing.

While Trump can self-pardon federal charges, he has no such power in state cases like Georgia’s election interference trial, which may remain on hold until his term ends.

Civil lawsuits, including those for sexual abuse and fraud, are still viable under a Supreme Court precedent allowing presidents to be sued.

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[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 20 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (4 children)

Why though. Literally, there is no reason* it should stop. And self pardon? Obviously fucking shouldn't be a thing.

GDI this day.

Edit: spelling

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

He doesn't need to pardon himself. He'll just fire Jack Smith and make this all go away.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

He doesn’t need to pardon himself.

But he will. No reason to leave that to chance in the future. He already didn't do that once, requiring him to get back into office. A pardon doesn't need to be explicit about the crimes it's pardoning. Just look at Nixon's pardon as a template:

Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.

Just change it to Trump's name and the period to "prior to January 20th, 2025", and you've got a complete federal pardon for anything Trump has *ever *done in his life.

[–] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 0 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Lowkey wonder if that could be challenged

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago

it could. but which way do you think the current, corrupt scotus majority would rule?

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I believe he was complaining about college students who reject Greek life...

Global Defense Initiative?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

This is America. Our government is corrupted to the bone. We are compromised, and we are for sale.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 142 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I actually don’t think there’s any uncertainty. He’s been quite clear about what he’ll do. He’ll kill all federal cases and ongoing federal investigations, pardon himself for everything he can pardon himself for, and all of the state proceedings will be paused until after his term. In the meantime he’ll “investigate,” threaten, and bully anyone involved in the various state cases, and given his age it is incredibly unlikely that legal proceedings will ever result in justice for his myriad crimes.

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 35 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

state proceedings will be paused until after his term

Yes, I full expect the 34 counts sentencing by Merchan to be placed on hold until Jan. 21st, 2029. I'm surprised anyone is confused on this.

Trump won, he gets to get off scot-free from all the charges and investigation. That was literally the reason Trump ran.

Civil lawsuits

Well maybe. Depends with the new SCOTUS presumed immunity. Official acts wasn't well defined and while no one is thinking rape is an official act, the manner by which the evidence was collected can be questioned.

At this rate, the civil stuff might continue, but there's going to be so much resistance to the proceedings that they will effectively look as not even happening. The President can delay court motions because "I'm doing President stuff rn" and the Court has to presume that's true. Rise and repeat until his second term is over.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

...until his second term is over.

Even that's optimistic.

[–] PwnTra1n@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Endless term though cuz the state of the country and he needs to make it great again again still

[–] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 11 points 20 hours ago

Yup, the venal fuck is going to die in the White House instead of a jail cell.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 49 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Come on. You fucking know what’s going to happen. “Uncertainty”, fuck off.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 hours ago

The rich fuck the poor yet again.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 32 points 19 hours ago

This shit is why New York should've already sentenced and imprisoned him.

Like many others, New York corrupted themselves treating Trump with partisan kid gloves, all the while trying to gaslight us that they were doing the opposite.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There's no uncertainty. It's over. He's now completely immune. He's going to get off scot-free from all of it.

[–] DevopsPalmer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Just proves that if you're wealthy (and a white man) the laws don't apply

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

When you're famous... ::sigh::

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

The entire legal system has taken a wait and see attitude about all these cases because none of them want to be the one who puts a president in jail, and look what's happened.

Could have set the precedent and saved us all a lot of Sorrow, but fuck it, a guilty man walks free, right into the white house.

They are all now complicit in what he does.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Oh you mean that same legal system that would have nailed one of our proverbial balls to the wall if we had a list of so many charges like that?

The one that would never, EVER let us wait a few months until some job promotion or something similar was over?

Well I'll make this easy for you, that same corrupt ass stinking piece of shit system is gonna let this fucker go Scott free on all his crimes. Maybe a few fines.

Land of the free

And half the population cheered it on.

Humans are a fucking disease and the planet would be better off without us.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Lol, keep coping. Or read projet 2025 if you want to know what's coming. Good news, you don't need to read it whole, it just repeats once it gets to why LGBT people shouldn't exist anywhere.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

It sure is a good thing we slow played those criminal proceedings huh. Thanks Mr. Garland and Mr. Biden.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 4 points 12 hours ago

He's Teflon Don. He will literally never do a day of jailtime.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

I would expect the opposite - any uncertainty there ever was is now gone.

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

It's been said a bunch of times, even in this thread but I want to say it myself...Uncertainty? The fuck is article even talking about. Everyone with a little knowledge and 10% of a human brain knows what's going to happen to his cases.