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On Friday, TriStar Pictures released Here, a $50 million Robert Zemeckis-directed film that used real time generative AI face transformation techniques to portray actors Tom Hanks and Robin Wright across a 60-year span, marking one of Hollywood's first full-length features built around AI-powered visual effects.

Metaphysic developed the facial modification system by training custom machine-learning models on frames of Hanks' and Wright's previous films. This included a large dataset of facial movements, skin textures, and appearances under varied lighting conditions and camera angles. The resulting models can generate instant face transformations without the months of manual post-production work traditional CGI requires.

You couldn't have made this movie three years ago," Zemeckis told The New York Times in a detailed feature about the film. Traditional visual effects for this level of face modification would reportedly require hundreds of artists and a substantially larger budget closer to standard Marvel movie costs

Meanwhile, as we saw with the SAG-AFTRA union strike last year, Hollywood studios and unions continue to hotly debate AI's role in filmmaking. While the Screen Actors Guild and Writers Guild secured some AI limitations in recent contracts, many industry veterans see the technology as inevitable. "Everyone's nervous," Susan Sprung, CEO of the Producers Guild of America, told The New York Times. "And yet no one's quite sure what to be nervous about."

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They couldn’t get Zoltar to de-age him like in Big? Why use A.I. to do something we could already do in 1988 for 25¢?

[–] derfunkatron@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Adjusted for inflation, that $0.25 is now equivalent to $68 million dollars, so…

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

That went the other way, it is easier. The ending was just putting him back.

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 days ago

What's incredible to me is that the results really aren't very good. We all know what they looked like young, and the AI version is just... Not Wright. No Hanks, AI.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've heard the film is terrible which is more important.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Maybe AI wrote the script too

[–] iagomago@feddit.it 2 points 1 day ago

Please do yourself a favor and read the original graphic novel this slop Is based upon. McGuire's Here is stunning, innovative, incredible and imaginative. Which makes me even mas when thinking it's being turned into a movie.

[–] EleventhHour@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

While I don’t disagree that it’s inevitable that AI will be used in all sorts of ways, I’m really getting tired of all of these large companies trying so hard to jam it in everywhere it may not necessarily belong.

[–] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It'll be interesting to see how this looks. The same technology was used in Alien: Romulus to revive a younger Ian Holm's likeness for Rook, and while it was a cool tech demo, it still felt quite uncanny valley and distracting to watch. Casting another actor might have been a better choice. At least for this project the tech sounds more relevant, in that they're deaging and aging characters within the same film.

[–] dingdongitsabear@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

to me the Ian Holm abomination was terrible, without any redeeming qualities. same thing as rogue one, exact same shittyness, zero technological progress, crude and unnecessarily distracting.

Well they didn't do it with Botox.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Pretty interesting after Robin Wright's role in The Congress.

[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

When I saw the commercial for this movie all I could think of was that King of the Hill episode where Peggy tries selling houses by staging cheesy family plays about the house

[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Seems pretty sappy. I would be happier with Bachelor Party 2. Where Tom Hank's son goes back in time to 1985 to fix problems that happened.

[–] Legonatic@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Using AI in this way I think is generally fine. I draw the line at using it, as well as any other effects, to recreate an actor's face who has passed away.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought they went on strike to make sure the next Tom Hanks movie actually has Tom Hanks.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This movie has Tom Hanks. But there is now a trained AI model that can make a very old Tom Hanks look younger. That same model could probably make someone who looks and sounds similar to Tom Hanks look and sound exactly like Tom Hanks.

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure, but this is a policy problem and not a technology one.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 day ago

And this is a policy the actors' union went on strike for.