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So I'm using a lot the option to chat myself in apps like WhatsApp or Telegram. But I don't wanna put my trust in them.

I tried about using NextCloud (I have an instance) Talk, but I'm not satisfied: the app won't load if I have no internet connection.

What I am actually looking for:

  • something with cross client sync that sync is ideally on my server
  • simple to use like sending message to self but with good search options, maybe even tagging
  • ability to send images, files etc
  • caches offline on clients

thanks.

P.S. wasn't really sure what tag to use here. Help seems like I'd use when I have an issue with an existing project. but I'm looking for a new one so I used this.

thanks!

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[–] Zelaf@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Matrix seems like a perfect fit for you then!

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

well search is not that good, it can only find exact word matches for any of the words, but otherwise yeah. though I think telegram isn't much better at this either

[–] Zelaf@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Search is definitely lacking sadly. Unsure if there's even solid plans to make it much better either.

I don't do a lot of message searching so luckily for me, it's not something that bothers me too much.

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 3 points 4 days ago

I think I have found something interesting, check my reply to the other reply

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gonna take this in a different direction. Sounds like you mostly want notes with attachments and organization, but you're just using chat apps for it right now.

Joplin does all the things you're talking about, including multiple backends and encryption. No need to host a server.

yes I basically need a note taking app.

But sometimes I feel like note taking apps are too complicated, where most of the time I just wanna forward a link or something.

I'll check out Joplin tho, thanks!

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have you consider using a note taking app with server sync instead of abusing a chat service for the same thing?

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 4 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I fully understand the argument and kinda agree. That said, here's why i still use the Telegram self-chat just like OP, you can suggest a note-taking app replacement if you think:

  • Paste a link, instant preview of it without user intervention, can play it right on the app if it's audio/video if i want or get a preview of it if it's just a page without opening a full browser (this puts it automatically above a "synced notepad" which is what i understand note taking apps tend to be)
  • Synced across devices
  • Both desktop and mobile
  • Private, no one else sees it
  • Easy and convenient, i usually have Telegram running already, just switch to it on browser or desktop and copy or paste the thing

Gimme a note taking app that has all these, that is not a big program needing lots of resources to run all the time, and that i can self-host for the server part (or E2EE P2P like Syncthing) and we're cooking!

[–] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago

and also, time of "saving" is always correctly preserved

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Telegram private 🙃

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I use SimpleX for this matter. Each device get its own account, and I just create a group named "self" with all of them. You can selfhost the server too if you prefer that route.

[–] halm@leminal.space 2 points 5 days ago

Oops, added a suggestion of Simplex before I saw your answer. +1, I guess 🙂

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Check out xmpp. Wouldn't know of anything remotely as useful as tgram. If it's just about messaging yourself, you could also continue using tgram and doing your own encryption with your own bot for sensible data.

my own encryption seems like too much work.

and also eventually the bot will send me the deciphered content, so TG can technically see it.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How about pushbullet? It's not self-hosted though, but syncs nicely between different phones and browser plugin. File transfer etc. works well, the search is rudimentary.

Honestly I'm not sure about offline support though, I haven't really been in a situation where I wanted to take a note/message myself without internet connection.

[–] EmbarrassedDrum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] halm@leminal.space 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Simplex chat has a default "private notes" chat which is essentially chatting with yourself as you describe it.

Simplex is available for a lot of platforms and devices, and easier to install and maintain than Nextcloud. I'm not sure if it ticks all your boxes, though?

thanks I'll try it!

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Since i use the self-chat on Telegram a lot i've wished for exactly the same thing in the past as i'm planning on leaving the service, so far haven't found a right fit yet

yeah same here. I sometimes use WhatsApp but it's not as good.