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Donald Trump has described at length the dangerous and disturbing actions he says he will take if he wins the presidency.

His rallies offer a steady stream of such promises and threats — things like prosecuting political opponents and using the military against U.S. citizens. These statements are so outrageous and outlandish, so openly in conflict with the norms and values of American democracy that many find them hard to regard as anything but empty bluster.

We have two words for American voters: Believe him.

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[–] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The New York Times downplayed his racist, sexist and violent rhetoric and doing "both sides" shit for the last 8 years (the best word I have heard to describe this is "sanewashing")... and now they are coming out with this?

Fuck the New York Times.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You know what I would do if I was president?

Curl up under the desk in the oval office and cry because I have no idea how to run a country.

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just say yes to 75% of things, read from the prompter, and shake hands

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about a little insurrection? You know, as a treat?

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Because of the original commenter's pfp and instance, I'm now picturing a furry insurrection and its kinda terrifying.

[–] shani66@ani.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You'd be doing better than some past presidents at least

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't there one that died, like, a week into office because he was too cool to see a doctor or something dumb like that?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nah, he saw a doctor, but because it was 1841 the treatment for his flu/pneumonia/septic shock from the White House having tainted water was: bloodletting, forced vomiting, opium, laudanum, and brandy.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If I was President I’d be taking so much anxiety medication and sobbing regularly over how difficult it is to do it ethically and to create lasting improvements to the country while everyone demands my soul in exchange for their vote in favor of necessary changes to our society, especially of the environmental sort.

[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“The major problem—one of the major problems, for there are several—one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.

To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.

To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.”

~ Douglas Adams

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

"I'd never be a member of any club that would have me"

  • paraphrased from Groucho Marx
[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Absolutely everyone believes him. The people that say that he means something other than what he's saying believe him but don't want to be stuck with the image that they're okay with it.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 1 week ago

Imagine having to even respond to that....

"Yeah he means it and I'm voting for all that shit!"

Or

"He doesn't mean that, he just lies to us to get our votes and I'm voting for him!"

Either way you're a fucking moron... Those dumb fucking people are going to set us back so much further than we already have been...

[–] acid_falcon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That's very not true. And it's honestly scarier. I work about ten minutes from Trump's first assassination attempt.

My boss is a good Christian who didn't know that fascism is a far right ideology.

They're in their own echo chamber, just like we are. They just don't understand that their echo chamber leads to a Hitler 2.0.

[–] acid_falcon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

And to clarify to you specifically and the three-ish people that upvoted me, on a weekly basis he helps a 40 year old dude with multiple sclerosis do history homework, and they were covering the second world war. He read the Wikipedia of fascism, and he literally said that he had no idea it was a right wing ideology.

What can I glean from that? I have no fucking clue. Fuck Nazis, fuck republicans. I can only hope that there is a large group of people voting conservative who dont understand the consequence of this next election. Because if you're right than like 40% of the country are bigots, and even if the Democrats win, we're *still fast tracking to collapse

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You can always take solace that you weren't down voted.

When you're talking about a set as large as 40 to 50% of the US there will always be exceptions. This exceptions will be numerous yet statistically and significant.

When someone says absolutely every one of the US is X, it's almost always going to be a representation of the truth rather than the actual truth.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago
[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Let's be honest. There is litterally no situation where you should ever believe a thing trump says.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Media Bias/Fact Check - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for Media Bias/Fact Check:

Wiki: unreliable - There is consensus that Media Bias/Fact Check is generally unreliable, as it is self-published. Editors have questioned the methodology of the site's ratings.


MBFC: Least Biased - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: Very High - United States of America


The New York Times - News Source Context (Click to view Full Report)Information for The New York Times:

Wiki: reliable - There is consensus that The New York Times is generally reliable. WP:RSOPINION should be used to evaluate opinion columns, while WP:NEWSBLOG should be used for the blogs on The New York Times's website. The 2018 RfC cites WP:MEDPOP to establish that popular press sources such as The New York Times should generally not be used to support medical claims.


MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High - United States of America


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[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

MBFC: Left-Center - Credibility: High - Factual Reporting: High

I find this very funny. Can we get an Obama awarding himself meme in here?

Especially with the context from the wiki saying the opposite lol

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Well thats confusingly transparant.