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Does anyone know where this image is from (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by Jelamzer@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml

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I hear people say its in China other say Indonesia

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[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am glad that you asked about this. Anticommunists like sharing these photographs without giving any context.

I don’t speak Chinese, but judging from this (crudely translated) article, Luc Kim Phung (sometimes translated as Liu Jinfeng) suffered the death penalty for committing mariticide. Her husband was very abusive and infanticidal. ‘At the police station, Luc Kim Phung admitted all of [her] actions. In March 1995, Luc Kim Phung was sentenced to death, although the court considered all relevant circumstances, […] because she had a criminal record, there could be no other sentence.’

[–] Eat_Yo_Vegetables69@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because she had a criminal record, there could be no other sentence

That's one of the worst parts, as her prior criminal record was due to her being pretty much forced into prostitution after being kicked out of home by her abusive family.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope that the PRC’s law is at least more rational now. Did any officials comment on the ruling?

[–] Eat_Yo_Vegetables69@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I couldn't find any recent official comments on that case, the original ruling essentially said that 法律无情 (direct translation as the law is heartless and impartial).

One recent case that did blow up in 2016 involved a son who defended his mother from a dozen usury debt collectors, they confined both of them and humilated the mother to a degree which caused the son to pick up a knife and fight back, killing one and injuring three. The initial police response before the stabbing was terrible, with the two officers clearly seeing the two in distress but they wrote it off as a simple civil dispute and left the area.

Originally the son was sentenced to life imprisonment, but after an outcry it was overturned to 5 years and he was out on good behaviour in 2020. As of 2022 he was set to get married. The criminal boss behind the high interest debt was sentenced to 25 years.

[–] quality_fun@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

i wish china would abolish the death penalty already.

people downvoted this? disgusting.

[–] himazawa@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly curious, why? I live in a country that doesn’t have it but I don’t see downsides if the crimes committed are way too bad. For example, why keeping alive (with contributors money) a serial killer?

[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So you think the state should have the power to decide who gets to live or die? Really? Also not to mention Justice is many times wrong and its not uncommon for people to be wrongly convicted.

[–] himazawa@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago

You think that being convicted for lifetime is a solution anyway?

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It might be this woman:

Supposedly executed for murder in the 90s. If anyone can confirm the sign around her neck?

[–] Eat_Yo_Vegetables69@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yep it's the same person

The sign says "murderer Lu Jinfeng"

Tragically according to the article, she was abused by her father as a child and was eventually kicked out of her home. This resulted in her being on the streets, being abused by anyone who took her in, eventually working at certain 'establishments' (you know the type). After serving a year behind bars, she returned home where she was sold numerous times and ended up being sold to the village thug.

She not only suffered years of physical and sexual abuse by her drunk husband, but also his piece of shit cousins who assaulted her numerous times, resulting in a pregnancy. As a result she gave birth to a son, but the straw that broke the camel's back was when her husband tied her to a tree and attacked her with weapons, demanding to know who the child's dad was. After she woke up and saw that the child had been murdered by her husband, she lost it and killed the husband with a sickle.

She was sentenced to death and it was carried out in 1995.

[–] kikuos_child@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Okay that was a very bad decision. So they knew all about her but still executed her? Was there any public outcry? I hope cases like hers now end up being very less or no prison time at all because that's seriously so disheartening i literally wanna cry.

[–] Eat_Yo_Vegetables69@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Usually with these older cases the outcry would only come way after it was carried out. The poor lady suffered a lifetime only for it to end in a terrible outcome.

In a few more recent cases from the 2000s to 2010s, there have been a few cases of wives killing abusive husbands in self defense and having their sentences lightened (from heavy sentences reduced to 3-8 years) after their circumstances are reviewed and with some public outcry (easier access to information during recent times). The Yu Huan case from above is another example.

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

According to my family of fake refugees in Canada who fled China before the Communists defeat the warlords, execution is necessary to reduce the number of competitors for limited food supply.

[–] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This is so fucked up to read, honestly. There are a lot of layers of trauma here.

[–] qwename@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's in China, but as all "shocking" news go, the original story depends on where you look, because anti-China sources (like Falungong) will tell a different story. There's a question on Zhihu discussing what the actual case behind this photo was: https://www.zhihu.com/question/35185664. Also, this was during a period of "严打"(crackdown on crimes, severe punishment etc.) in the 90s.

[–] qwename@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not sure how rampant fake news is in other non-English speaking countries, but the Chinese Internet is riddled with sensational stories that are hard for individuals to verify, but easily forwarded to friends and family.

Now with ChatGPT/Deepfake and the like more readily available, the situation will be even worse. To combat this kind of disinformation, an actual "Ministry of Truth" will be required, based on a database of verified information and using logic to verify new stories and claims. Things like Wikipedia or Baidu百科 won't cut it.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not sure how rampant fake news is in other non-English speaking countries

WhatsApp exists in India and Brazil solely to propagate sensational fake news and shitty memes.

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To combat this kind of disinformation, an actual “Ministry of Truth” will be required

if this ever happens, liberals are gonna point at it and froth, "see! see! i told you china was le authoritarian redfash 1984 where people can't say shit and the government forces their views down the poor innocent civilian's throats!"

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liberals in Canada have literally just passed a bill that will give the government the power to decide what constitutes disinformation and censor content https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/online-streaming-act-cancon-future-1.6749795

[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, no, you see, it's only bad when non-whites do it! 🙄🙄🙄

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 year ago

that's right

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