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Any Accountability At All Commission

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Only at the people who enabled him, and not he himself?

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 68 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Impeachment exists, if only there were a functioning body of government left to do such a thing.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I will believe Impeachment means something once someone is removed from power until then it's a political threat that means nothing.

At this point it's an untested power.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 6 points 4 hours ago

Arguably, it has been tested, several times. Each time it failed, after a fashion. We should be concerned what message that sends to the next person who would contemplate engaging in such impeachment-actionable behaviors.

[–] TheRaven@lemmy.ca 48 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Why stop there? Have every President, Senator, and Member of Congress investigated at all times. Whether we think they’re corrupt or not.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I can actually see how that would be a problem.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

It's innocent until proven guilty, not innocent until investigated.

But yes, it would be politicized immediately. If only there was a way to have bad faith actors run a government smoothly, then we'd be cooking with gas.

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Getting the money out of elections would go a long way. The problem is that more than half the ones who need to choose to get the money out benefit from it.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe a stupid question, but shouldn't the FBI be doing that?

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

They should, but don't, and haven't ever. At this point I don't really trust them to.

Especially given their pinkerton start.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago

The same FBI that was dismissed by Trump when they looked into him, even though he was totally guilty? Or the same FBI that told civil rights protestors to kill themselves?

The FBI is the Federal police for crimes the common man commits, not the rich.

[–] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 29 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The third political party in the US should be The Woodchipper. You don't vote for candidates, just The Woodchipper. If The Woodchipper gets the majority of votes, all the candidates on the ticket get tossed in a fucking woodchipper and we start the election over with new candidates.

This fixes our problems, in a uniquely American way.

[–] Huckledebuck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Who gets to throw them in?

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago

They're still bitter about Groundhog Day. I say, let them have it.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 28 points 16 hours ago
[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

If we can't even get Trump to stop running despite being a convicted felon, I don't even know if we can catch up with the next fucker. Dude could literally shoot someone on 5th Ave and the government would go "Well, they're the president, what are you going to do about it?"

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't he directly say he could shoot someone and still win the (2016) election? I swear I remember seeing that he flat out said that, I think around the time of the Republican primary debates

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 13 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't want Trump to win because he's more likely to create a "presidential crimes commission" full of political appointees going after the other party.

We have the legal system, if there are crimes they should be charged. The answer is not some additional political tribunal.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ha ha ha ha your legal system is the laughing stock of the planet

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

glances at Europe

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 10 points 18 hours ago
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I remember hoping that Obama would prosecute Bush for all of his crimes, in hindsight it was really naive.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 10 points 3 hours ago

We JuSt NeEd To MoVe On AnD hEal As A nAtIoN!

.... /Vomit

[–] Talisker@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Haha yeah the government that’s currently enabling war crimes is gonna totally make a commission to hold presidents liable for crimes.

This is why nothing changes. If you start looking at one of them you have to look at all of them.

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago

Jailing a president is tough. We need to jail their enablers. No president acts alone

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Creating a Department dedicated entirely to Justice.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

organize and take to the streets (and their pockets) if you want that to actually happen.