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[–] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The fact that we're talking about either of these guys as viable candidates, and that they will likely be the nominations, is wild. Biden would be 86 and Trump would be 82 if they make it to the end of the term.

[–] echo@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's wild that people act shocked that the Democratic party is backing an incumbent president tbh

[–] theletterd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personally feel like the great American experiment has failed if these two fucktards are our choices.

The experiment failed in 1861, but once an institution as big as a country gets started it tends to keep going.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Experts predicted Hillary didn’t they?

[–] mace@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

if you can’t grasp by now the myriad ways this cycle would be different from 2016 for trump, i don’t think there’s any way to get through to you on the matter. you’ll just have to sit back and watch.

[–] NotSpez@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I hope you are right. I just think there is a strong base, a lot of people who don’t like Biden and there are (way too) many republican politicians willing to dance to his tune.

[–] EtnaAtsume@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Sit back? I don't think so. Vote!

[–] Chaser@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

Five Thirty Eight was pretty spot on actually

[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

As it stands, political scientists expect Donald Trump to win the Republican nomination for president. Most GOP candidates are in lockstep with Trumpist policies and culture wars, failing to differentiate in an already scattered field; despite the appearance of a united front, factions within the party cannot agree on when and how to pass hardline legislation. Traditional conservative forces are looking for a less volatile alternative with a more viable path to win the general election, and as that concern mounts, some experts say Biden could be narrowly re-elected if the race is a rematch of 2020.

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looking for less volatile candidate… maybe they should’ve done that in 2015. You guys created this mess. Now we all have to clean up after you.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Democrats cleaning up Republican messes seems to be standard operating procedure.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

So they're looking for a less volatile culture warrior? I'm pretty sure that's not a thing.

[–] CodingCarpenter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I feel like when Trump was first running everybody considered him a joke candidate outside the redneck community. And yet look where we ended up. I don't think it's safe to assume any democratic nominee is in any sort of lead or decent position until the polls been called. People get too relaxed they Don't bother voting because they see a foregone conclusion and that is a dangerous thing

[–] xc2215x@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

That is good to see.