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I think at this point the Trump ticket is the JD Vance for President ticket. If they win, even if he doesn’t drop from a bad stroke or cardiovascular disease, the team will 25th his ass.
It’s essentially the Vance / Johnson ticket going forward.
the team will 25th his ass
That’s what they should do in that situation, but in reality, there’s no chance. The bar is too high.
From the 25th Amendment:
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Trump would have a cabinet full of true believers and yes-men. There’s no way that more than half would be on board to jettison him. The Congressional cure is also a non-starter. If Trump were to win, there would probably also be a Republican-controlled Congress, and we all know that Congressional Republicans have zero spine when it comes to standing up to daddy.
Idk. Vance doesn’t strike you as just waiting for that opp? Look at how he flip flops.
I'm still thinking Vance would push Drumpf down the stairs within minutes if they won.
I completely, wholeheartedly believe that the GOP could fight kicking and screaming to get Trump elected and then immediately, unanimously 25 him before the inauguration is even complete. They have zero shame. This is not even slightly outside of their ballpark.
It's an obvious con, but that didn't stop them from doing the exact same thing with their supreme court justices. That was also an obvious con that would not have been allowed in any functioning government.
just played music for almost 40 minutes, scowling, smirking, and swaying onstage.
Context:
Trump called for Ava Maria to be played after a medical emergency put it on pause for about five minutes an hour into the event. He then took another question. Just a few minutes later, there was another medical emergency. Apparently it was a bit hot in the event space. It went off the rails soon after that as he called for the doors to be opened and wanting to play more music to end the event.
At one point he stops to ask if they want to do one more question. Although the crowd cheers and he says we'll do one more, he called for YMCA to be played.
Certainly an odd presidential town hall but definitely not the worst thing this guy has done and in no way did he "break down". Honestly, between the lies and threats to other humans, this might be the most human I've ever seen him. It's really sad to see how delusional these people are.
Here's the stream from PBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-FhvhdVSZE
My favorite part was when they played James Brown's "This is a Man's World". Clearly, they haven't listened to the song LOL
Edit: Here's another story from ABC News - Trump's bizarre music session reignites questions about his mental acuity
His choice to play music is debatable. Having watched the video, it didn't seem odd to me that he made these choices. There was absolutely nothing in this town hall to indicate an issue with his mental acuity that has not already been known. He has always been an idiot. This is not news.
Thank you for the context. I do agree this shines a different light on the proceedings ... However:
this might be the most human I've ever seen him.
Might be an indication of the claims above?
There was absolutely nothing in this town hall to indicate an issue with his mental acuity that has not already been known. He has always been an idiot. This is not news.
Clooney put a hit out on Biden for much less.
But the point is to report on this in the hopes that the American people will pay attention. I can only speculate why you want to keep a lid on it...
Pay attention to what?? The stuff we’ve all lived through for the last ~~five~~ ten years??
This report is bullshit. It’s an illustration of the demise of the media and real journalism. It’s misinformation to solidify a narrative.
I know. Most people don’t care about policy - most notability DT. I understand that clicks aren’t gained through real journalism. This is exactly how we ended up with this dickhole to begin with. Every media outlet flooded their blocks with every minute story they could drum up about Trump. This left little time to cover any other alternative candidate. Everyone is obsessed with loving or hating this guy. WTF are we doing? No one is changing their mind about him at this point. How, I don’t know. How the fuck any living human could possibly consider this shitstain for anything more than a janitor is beyond me.
The point is that these stories are misleading. It doesn’t matter what you think about the person or the outlet doing the reporting. We should be more critical of the truth and the mistruths we’re being fed. Had anyone successfully made this argument in 2015, perhaps we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
We ended up with this monster because news outlets were actively protecting him because he was good for ratings.
The sanewashing is finally coming to an end and people who don't follow politics will hear about this.
But that is apparently bad in your eyes. Well, we can probably guess who's eyes but...
As for nobody changing their minds? Multiple republicans openly support Kamala. The fucking KKK put in for.. jill Stein. Minds are changing. So stop actively fighting against sanity.
His poopy pants dance is perfect.
This kind of behavior would have resulted in discussion of dementia and Alzheimers if it was ~~a Democrat.~~ literally any other person on the planet.
Fixed it for you.
Nah. I'm pretty well convinced a number of other Republicans could behave like this and the press wouldn't care.
Ol Mitch has fucking had strokes on camera and the media is like, oh that is just ol Mitch doing ol Mitch things. What a fellow!
Maggie Haberman saw nothing. Nothing!
I disagree, I remember how Fox totally ignored Bush choking on a pretzel or pushing on a pull door.
They protect their own and they'll defend anyone with an R next to their name.
If Trump ran as a Democrat, do you really think conservative media would ignore his obvious sundowning and pants shitting?
This is a comment i made in a different thread:
The actual event is, as usual, fascinatingly cringey.
This is right after the second guy fainted, so trump’s already been interrupted twice, the venue’s tiny, and I think he doesn’t like dog killer Kristi Noem despite obvious commonalities. She was probably insufficiently subservient.
He wants security to open the doors to let fresh air in, but they can’t because of USSS measures to protect his dumb ass. Watch how he loses his mind in rage, suppresses it, and rolls it into his patter in the span of one second.
Then he says hey everybody lets all hear my favorite - Pavarotti singing Ave Maria! (Crowd cheers). The fuck? It gets weirder from there.
This whole thing is just afucking fever dream. I hope you americans can sort your shit out
It would take the entire current government being replaced to do that.
That was a hard, bizarre watch - and from Fox no less. They're not beating the weird allegations, and they're not sending their best.
Republicans don't want a leader. They want a vegetable. Every (normal) Republican runs on limited government, then gets into power and adds government: (Nixon and the EPA, Bush and Homeland security, etc...) Regan came to power and then didn't do any of that, since he had alzheimers and didn't know who he was half the time.
That is the golden age they want to bring back.
Wait... Ronald Reagan didn't "didn't do any of [add government]" just because no new "three letter'd" agencies got founded under his tenure. In 1982 (or 83... I forget and am drunk right now), he almost doubled spending for the Department of Defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_policy_of_the_Ronald_Reagan_administration?wprov=sfla1
I just saw a photo from last nights town hall. The man looks like he wont make it to november 5th.
Sincere question: Have any of the experts run numbers on what happens to the vance ticket if trump takes a worm nap before nov 5th?
Yes. You have to remember you aren't electing Trump directly. You're voting for his electors.
If Trump dies before taking office, the party decides who will take his place.
It's most likely going to be Vance, but honestly it could be anyone.
Assuming that there isn't any fuckery (it's Republicans after all), then Vance becomes President and then nominates a VP that goes through the Senate approval process.
I can't remember the last time this was discussed but it was a while ago.
I agree, but that wasnt my question. Well, i guess it was accidentally vague. I can see how you misunderstood my prompt.
My question is in regards to what direction the voting public trend if that happens. Martyr boost propelling vance up, or fizzle bust?
Weirdness - very on-brand for the cons, who are total freaks, and not in a good way of being a freak.
I cannot help but wonder if we are in the Matrix, and David Lynch has been given the reins for the direction of what this time-line is....all donnie needs now is to dance with the backwards talking little man and to have the tall man materialize behind him....
The orange loser should toss out some Gold Diapers.
I hate that I'm at the stage that I can kind of see the logic in Trump's weirdness, but I dunno, I think everyone is missing what this event was.
People are forgetting that Trump is an incredibly small and incredibly petty man. I think this was 100% about punishing Kristi Noem for embarrassing Trump earlier. I think it's as simple as Trump didn't like being on stage with Noem so he decided to act like a child mostly to make her uncomfortable. Watch the event and their interactions; watch how he responses when she speaks.
And this is Trump so ignore the fact that none of Noem's own stupid bullshit had anything to do with Trump and ignore the fact that she's still a sycophant whose praise he will still accept, and ignore the fact that Trump hates dogs too. None of that matters. I really think what happened in the moment is that Trump looked at Noem, remembered that he had been mad at her before, and decided to act like a child in response.