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The United Nations said on Sunday Israeli tanks had burst through the gates of a base of its peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon, the latest accusation of Israeli violations and attacks that have been denounced by Israel's own allies.

Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called on the United Nations to evacuate the troops of the UNIFIL peacekeeping force from combat areas in Lebanon. Hours later, the force reported what it described as additional Israeli violations, including two Israeli Merkava tanks destroying the main gate of a base and forcibly entering before dawn that morning.

Soon after the tanks left, shells exploded 100 metres away, releasing smoke which blew across the base and sickened U.N. personnel, causing 15 to require treatment despite wearing gas masks, it said. It did not say who fired the shells or what sort of toxic substance it suspected.

It also accused Israel's IDF military of halting a logistics convoy. The Israeli military did not immediately respond to the statement.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 114 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fun fact: an Israeli paramilitary assassinated a UN mediator in 1948 because they were afraid his peace deal wouldn't be good for the Israeli State

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte

The assassination was organized by Yitzhak Shamir, later elected prime minister of Israel.

Zionists have always been terrorists, attacking the UN since before they were even given an official State.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 79 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is fucking disgusting, and a testament that Israel believes they have so much control over the narrative by Cambridge Analiticising the major social networks and their owners that they feel they can get away with it. If there's one thing I agree with Israel now, it's that the UN was certainly wrong - by choosing after WW2, to legitimize the Nazi Haavara Agreements on partitioning Mandatory Palestine and enabling the neocolonialism that became Israel hidden under the faint veil of religious superiority claims. What the persecuted minorities needed were their homes and their wealth back, not an appointed figurehead to lead them into colonialism 2.0.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I think you were joking, but thats what Israel has claimed, many times.

Israel calls UN a ‘terror organisation’ as tensions escalate over Gaza war

Ambassador to the global body accuses it of being a ‘collaborator with Hamas’

https://www.ft.com/content/f0945f3c-e4ab-4c04-8e1e-1e6f8397cb2c

Israeli terrorism has no boundairies and is not limited to Arabs.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The UN is clearly antisemitic.

/S (didn't think this would be necessary)

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[–] Maeve@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In its version of events, the Israeli military said militants of the Iran-backed group Hezbollah had fired anti-tank missiles at Israeli troops, wounding 25 of them. The attack was very close to a UNIFIL post and a tank helping evacuate the casualties under fire then backed into the UNIFIL post, it said. "It is not storming a base. It is not trying to enter a base. It was a tank under heavy fire, mass casualty event, backing up to get out of harm's way," the military's international spokesperson Nadav Shoshani told reporters.

.ml users called it over the weekend.

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[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

So what're they gonna do about it?

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

EDIT: After further research, and a few high-school level insults, I’m fairly certain, given the mind-boggling complexities of what went down in 1948, (like to what degree the British are to blame for however much of the violence, or how did the population of Arab-Jews factor into anything) that I am seriously under qualified to make the assessment that I made. I’m not sure anyone even can (although numerous books have written about it, one of which my Zionist parents tried to push on me), unless they were a truly neutral, on the ground observer at the time. (Maybe it's another reason to have a different term, since saying it is loaded doesn't even seem sufficient.)

~~I wish people would stop throwing around the term Zionist willy-nilly. It’s not accurate to the situation, and I don’t understand why it was twisted into this weird genocidal war-mongering meaning that has nothing to do with the word itself.~~

Now, clearly, there is a large portion of the Israeli government/military/and I guess, population, that is intent on genocide and war mongering, and it’s sickening and they need to be stopped. ~~I just don’t like this term being used inaccurately. Maybe I’m being pedantic.~~

~~The term “Zionist” itself does not inherently imply war-mongering or a desire for genocide. Zionism originally refers to the movement for the re-establishment of a Jewish homeland in what is now Israel, beginning in the late 19th century. It emerged as a response to centuries of persecution, including pogroms in Europe, and sought to create a safe, sovereign space for Jews.~~

~~However, over time, some have associated Zionism, especially in its modern form, with certain political actions taken by the State of Israel. Critics of Israeli policies, particularly regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, may use “Zionist” to refer to those who support aggressive military actions or expansionist policies, which clearly are contributing to extreme violence and the attempted genocide of Palestinians. This is where the connotation of war-mongering or even genocidal intent comes into play, often in highly polarized or emotionally charged discussions.~~

~~It’s important to note that many Zionists strongly reject these characterizations. They argue that Zionism is about self-determination for Jewish people. Equating Zionism with war-mongering or genocide often reflects political bias or misunderstanding of the broader spectrum of Zionist thought, which ranges from more moderate to more hardline positions.~~

The term can thus be polarizing, with very different meanings and implications depending on the speaker’s perspective and the context.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (19 children)

Zionism is a settler colonial ideology that aims at creating a Jewish ethno-state in Palestine. It cannot exist without violence. You can’t colonize someone else’s land without violence, and you can’t commit this violence without rationalizing it through dehumanizing the colonized. The genocide against the indigenous Palestinians is the logical consequence of their dehumanization that spans now over more than a century.

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 215 points 3 days ago (15 children)

They are literally attacking the UN and still we are expected to provide unquestioning support?

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 48 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This isn't new. They've been assassinating UN mediators since before they were even granted Statehood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte

The assassination was organized by Yitzhak Shamir, who was later elected prime minister of Israel.

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[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 145 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Zionists don't want witnesses. Thats why they've murdered 170 journalists in Gaza.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why would they care? The whole world is witnessing it and no one is doing anything to stop them.

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[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 135 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The UN troops have the right to defend themselves.

[–] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Especially with the Leclercs.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 115 points 3 days ago (39 children)

Has anyone informed Scorpius?!

Seriously though, Israel has proven over and over again that it has no respect for the UN whatsoever. Maybe it's time to kick them out, at least until they have a fucking non-genocidal government.

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[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 75 points 3 days ago (12 children)

In its version of events, the Israeli military said militants of the Iran-backed group Hezbollah had fired anti-tank missiles at Israeli troops, wounding 25 of them. The attack was very close to a UNIFIL post and a tank helping evacuate the casualties under fire then backed into the UNIFIL post, it said. "It is not storming a base. It is not trying to enter a base. It was a tank under heavy fire, mass casualty event, backing up to get out of harm's way," the military's international spokesperson Nadav Shoshani told reporters. In a statement, the military said it used a smoke screen to provide cover for the evacuation of the wounded soldiers but its actions posed no danger to the U.N. peacekeeping force.

OK, sounds plausible enough...

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement addressed to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres: "The time has come for you to withdraw UNIFIL from Hezbollah strongholds and from the combat zones." "The IDF has requested this repeatedly and has met with repeated refusal, which has the effect of providing Hezbollah terrorists with human shields

You want to have your cake and eat it too. Why do you want the peacekeepers out? Why not coordinate with them?

[–] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago

“I was just taking my tank platoon for a stroll on your lawn”

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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago

"We don't want witnesses to our human rights violations. These 'accidents' will keep happening until you leave."

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Wait like the Actual UN?

I get that the UN has no real teeth, but the peacekeepers do have teeth.

The fuck is going on anymore. Like I get they have all sorts of freedom to fuck around because they have weapons given to them with no control over their use, but this seems to me they are truly beginning to test their fate.

[–] sorval_the_eeter@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

oh it gets worse. The US is sending in ground troops to help. Missile defense ground troops, but ground troops all the same. When a few of them get killed (in some fog of war event, I'm sure) we'll send in a large armed contingent to "protect our lads".

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[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 62 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The spoiled child of the middle east throwing a temper tantrum that has hurt people.

Now what will Biden do to reign in Bibi and his mercenaries?

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Nothing. It's election year. If Biden does something, then Harris is going to be asked to up the ante which could be criticized as a running promise that might not be followed up on and cost her points

That's the only credit I will give Trump. He's not afraid to throw guarantees and promises around like they're Halloween candy. Now him following up on them (especially that don't benefit him or his friends) is a different story...

[–] Maeve@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

Send more weapons and US troops.

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