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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

Ah sweet! Man made horrors beyond my comprehension!

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Lovely place

[–] nick@midwest.social 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah, turns out war is pretty fucked up. Look up the rape of nanjing. Or Pearl Harbor. Or Hiroshima.

You get the idea.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Imperial Japan was obviously a fascist state that needed to be dismantled (and sadly wasn't nearly as much as it should have been), but if we're talking barbarism, Pearl Harbor was nothing compared to the other items listed. It was an air strike on a naval base, nothing was really exceptional about it except that it's rare for someone to dare to attack the US.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was done during a period of negotiations for peace. It was the perfidy, not the damage, with a dose of racism/xenophobia that mobilized Americans.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure it was because someone dropped bombs on American soil. In any case, the fact that it touched on the American aggrievement fetish does not put it on par with the other events listed.

[–] SoJB@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Liberals and the irresistible urge to compare yourself to literal Nazis

[–] nick@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not really sure what you mean here. Is that what I’m doing in your estimation?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Probably not intentionally. Looking at this and saying some variation of "war is hell" or "war is pretty fucked up" as you said is extremely handwavey. War being hell doesn't mean we can't focus on individual war crimes, particularly those done by the US.

Theres a lot of people who reflexively throw up there hands and say "War is Hell" (they're swarming here) when you bring up a US war crime. But if you bring up sonething done by a designated enemy of the US people don't do that.

Its may not be intentional but its still not good

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does add needed context though. These arent peacetime actions of civilians. These are the actions of people forced into melting pot of slaughter.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 month ago

Its a war crime

[–] nick@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yeah. I considered mentioning 9/11…. Of 1973. But suspect most people don’t know the us supported an attack on a foreign country surreptitiously. And abu ghraib, but wasn’t sure how it’s spelled.

This country is militarily fucked up, as are the cops.

There’s no whitewashing for me.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Ah, the real 9/11 allende-rhetoric

I don't know how spell abu graib either lol

[–] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And Japanese cannibalism of executed POW's, and Ishii's biological warefare unit. War is Hell.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah, so taking skulls as war trophies is fine

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

War is Hell.

I can just smell your armchair general smugness about saying that. You must feel very hardened and cool, calm, and collected watching explosions on screens. jagoff

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

hitler-detector all over the place in these comments

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

The US was the model for biological testing and eugenics, that's not why they fought japan, nor was it even one of the stated reasons at the time.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Just normal Freedom and Democracy things, no need to worry about it

[–] hackerwacker@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Nothing personnel kid

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What does this say about the guys that thought this was a good idea?

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

That they're war criminals

[–] Name@feddit.nu 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago (11 children)

That's an overly generous view of war crimes

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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure but I dk if I would want to be with a guy that sent me the head of his enemies as a momento. Like 40's girl wants a skulls ? They dating Wednesday Adams?

[–] Name@feddit.nu 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd probably not want to be in the same squad lol. Soldiers taking trophies from their enemies bodies gives of an unstable vibe

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Whaaa!? Skulls for the Skull throne is 100% mentally stable.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago

Turns out if you dehumanise your enemies completely, war crimes happen.

Although the japanese mostly just mutilated you when you were alive.