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[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 66 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Who would win: one of the most destructive natural disasters ever seen, or some strappy bois

Those anchor points are going to need to be driven really deep to do anything - the ground is already waterlogged

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 69 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Saw an interview with the family. The anchors are in 8ft deep concrete. This would probably be somewhat effective at at least preventing the roof from being ripped off.

Won't do much against swell or flying objects though. But they know that

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most of the comments I have seen say that the wind on the straps is going vibrate the roof away. I don't know personally, but that sounds like a likely outcome

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Couple twists in each strap will fix that.

[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How does that work if you could explain?

Wind causes a straight ratchet strap to vibrate, almost like a reed in certain types of wind instruments. You'll notice the same thing if you strap something to the roof of your car or in the bed of a pickup and drive it in the highway. It makes for a very noisy ride.

Giving the strap a twist or two, wherever it's not contacting something, will stop it from vibrating and it will be much quieter.

[–] wolfpack86@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Roof trusses have hurricane clips and ties after Andrew fucked everything up back in 1992.

This likely does nothing the roof can't already do.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 62 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

pulls on strap

"That's goin' nowhere"

pulls on second strap

"Yep, that'll do'er"

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 18 points 3 weeks ago

Now stack sandbags 20' high with a retaining wall around the perimeter and go to bed

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you look closely you can also see his arm sticking out the window, further holding down the roof.

[–] spicytuna62@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

[pat pat] yup, she ain't going nowhere.

[–] kia@lemmy.ca 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Going to be interesting when the neighbour's unstrapped house crashes into it.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I was gonna say a lot of good it'll do when that truck flies into it, shoulda strapped that down too

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

"It's not that the wind is blowing, it's what the wind is blowing" - Ron White

Not only would you need your house to be strong enough to withstand the hurricane's wind, your house will need to withstand whatever it is blowing around at 100mph+

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 15 points 3 weeks ago

Well based on the image it appears to be that what is going to hit his house is two pickup trucks, and some Palm trees.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 3 points 3 weeks ago

Like these straps and anchors when they rip out of the loose water logged soil.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 31 points 3 weeks ago
[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jdeath@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

probably the storm wasn't that bad

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

At first I doubted that this makes any sense at all, but then I noticed that it is connected to the concrete driveway, and I am pretty sure he poured concrete anchors underground...

So, maybe? Better than not having them I guess.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago

Should have put a twist or two in the straps. Reduces flutter.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Straps need a twist to cut the harmonics. Otherwise, sane plan.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or maybe, just maybe don't built your house like you want to rebuild it every 10 years and just use concrete/stone

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world -5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Concrete and stone homes are extremely dangerous. Sure the shit will be recognizable after a disaster but the humans inside will obliterated. Imagine a ceiling made of concrete falling on you versus a wood one. I’m a fire you are basically inside a brick oven, the inside temp would be several hundred degrees hotter than a normal wood house fire. Or imagine living next to a giant brick house and during a tornado the fucking wall flys off and obliterates you and your family because at 100 mph a brick is basically a cannon ball.

Yes it’s made to fall apart and that’s on purpose. People would rather be alive after a hurricane.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

Imagine a ceiling made of concrete falling on you versus a wood one.

That's... Unlikely. How many high rises have come down during hurricanes? It you're building a home with reinforced concrete walls that are tied to a solid foundation, it's not going to come down on you in a hurricane. A tornado might take the house down, but you're pretty fucked if a tornado hits your home regardless. As far as fires go, well, a wood-framed house burns down around you, so is that really any better than being baked in an oven? (Depending on how fast a fire moves, you may not lose a concrete or stone building.)

The biggest issue in a hurricane isn't the wind damage, it's the storm surge. A house made with reinforced concrete panels is going to be able to recover from that more easily than one that has a wooden frame and gypsum board or plaster; you don't have to replace concrete that gets wet.

Cost is very nearly the only driver for constructing houses out of stone, brick, or reinforced concrete. Ever priced out a stacked stone construction? I did, for a retaining wall; it was something like 100x more expensive than a pressure-treated wooden retaining wall. The retaining wall would have cost more than my house, in materials alone, never mind labor.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah no, they are made from wood because that is cheaper and quicker to build. That is it. Even in the USA, houses were build from stone or cinderblocks until shortly after the 2nd world war.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 8 points 3 weeks ago

Whelp, ::slaps the bush:: that ain't going nowhere.

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The cost of putting that in vs...

The damage to your siding, roof tiles, windows, landscaping, secondary structures, gutters, trim, etc...

You know they don't have insurance.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Sure, they spent the time and money on 8ft deep concrete anchor points, but neglected to get insurance

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A lot of home owners in Florida can't get insurance.

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

I did not know. Even more signs that maybe you shouldn't get a house there

[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean insurance would pay for any damage, so why bother with something like this then?

[–] Cadeillac@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

If they can keep their home I'm sure they would like to

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lots of insurers have left the Florida markets entirely, because they're spending more paying out claims than they can take in for premiums. The ones that remain have sky-high premiums, thousands of dollars each month in some cases, because they're pretty sure that they will have to pay out claims. The result is that many homeowners in Florida can no longer afford insurance. Since you need to have insurance on a home in order to get a mortgage, that makes buying a home in Florida really expensive, unless you can pay cash up front.