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Maybe EVs are not a comprehensive climate solution??

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[–] manucode@infosec.pub 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Their bigger carbon footprint isn't caused by the EV though.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it is not. But, while electric vehicles have lower carbon footprint than gasoline powered cars, they have far higher carbon footprint than public transport.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

A lot of North America has zero public transit and is very spread out.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Absolutely. Improvements has been made, but there is a very long way to go.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 month ago

China is comparably big and they don't seem to have this "problem". There is little excuse to not develop public transit. But unfortunately from what I've seen from Not Just Bikes, Amtrak looks like hell to use. So destroying capitalism might be the first thing to do, before any significant and useful developments happen.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Correct, it's caused by being relatively rich.

Cars are luxuries. Electric cars are more expensive luxuries.

[–] entumetnary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 1 points 1 month ago

Yes! Now convince the car fanboys clamoring for electric cars to switch.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By this logic, if a rich dude makes a public railway system then it’s doesn’t matter that the trains are more environmentally efficient, that person is rich so it invalidates everything else

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 1 points 1 month ago

Is the railway system for his personal use? Rail is good if it's public transport (and cargo). There was a tradition, some time ago, of rich people getting their own railways and trains. But now they have jets and yachts.

[–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Correlation ≠ Causation. This study is ridiculous in premise. I hate cars as much as the next guy but please don’t post garbage

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah this reads like an article built to make people who don't choose evs to feel justified. What are the real motives of this "study".

I personally own an EV, and also got rid of my gas furnace, and gas water heater, and everything gas. So, wonder who they studied and how

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I personally own an EV, and also got rid of my gas furnace, and gas water heater, and everything gas. So, wonder who they studied and how

They probably studied every other person who owns an EV.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds like some lazy thinking.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

EVs are here to save the car/oil cartels not the planet. The planet can not sustain the level of privilege exhibited by these EV owners. Even if the EV makes a slight improvement, it's not nearly enough and it's a symptom of much greater waste and privilege. We need to stop pretending that EVs are some kind of sustainable solution for the planetary crisis.

[–] entumetnary@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wtf OP. this is so misleading Why are you peddling this ?

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 0 points 1 month ago

What is misleading?