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[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US State Department only just directed its employees to use Calibri for memos earlier this year. The State Department had been using Times New Roman instead since 2004.

Lmao

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly, they have probably kept times new Roman for other things, as a serif font it's much harder to make the mistake between a capital I and a lower case l.

Ambiguity can cause problems.

At the same time, I agree, lmao.

[–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SGG@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This Guy Gets It, Or Does He Get lt?

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[–] jdevsd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

Parts of the DoD still use Times 😩

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How is a new font "more inclusive"? This word has been co-opted by corpo drones and has lost its meaning.

[–] hardypart@feddit.de 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's little things like better disambiguation between uppercase i and lowercase L.

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and the letters qpdb are different? (for dyslexic people)

[–] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

qpdb are completely symmetrical in Bierstadt, so no.

[–] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

It's like 'gaslighting' or 'reboot', or various others: it gains a little traction then everyone finds an excuse to use it, appropriate or not.

The only meaning I could imagine as useful is to include more different scripts from the Unicode set.

[–] jschmau5@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like a return to Arial to me!

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Meanwhile professors still be requiring essays done in Times New Roman, and all actual documents are done in the default because as long as its legible it doesn't matter.

Oh except for a court case in 2044 when a lawyer notices "Aha! This document is dated from 2020 but the Aptos font wasn't introduced until 2023, this document is forged!" Yes I can cite precedent, Your Honor; something similar happened with Callibri, introduced circa 2007.

[–] cx0der@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See? Told you there was precedent.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the sauce, that makes me so happy, people like me have them Sherlock skills, being heroes

Meanwhile professors still be requiring essays done in Times New Roma

A font I strongly dislike. Particularly in any electronic media it just looks unsightly to me for some reason I have never been able to articulate. I do tend to like sans-serif fonts more in general, but I don't think that's entirely it.

I hope to never return to an environment where someone is going to complain about just using Arial or similar.

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Remindme! 7-14-2044 GOOD KERNING MATTERS

[–] blueryth@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Previously known as Bierstadt

Missed opportunity. Long live Beertown! 🍻

[–] rlspam@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Again? I still haven’t gotten over the switchover from Times New Roman to Calibri.

[–] sorenant@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Found the US State Department.

[–] the_medium_kahuna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i wish we could collectively agree to switch to Liberation Mono and stay there

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

I like Tahoma

[–] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] erezac@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Hate would be a too strong word, but I’ve disliked it always. Much prefer Arial or even Verdana.

[–] BaskinRobbins@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

I guess I'm the only one here who likes it

[–] Bishma@social.fossware.space 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is at least the 4th official microsoft font I've been around for. What a time to be alive!

Good to know. I’ll get ready for some user to complain about this today.

[–] dr_doomscroller@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, all these essential moves like azure ad to entra id and a new default font?

microsoft has be laying off the wrong people.

meanwhile, you can't update powershell through winget.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why didn't they just use Segoe UI? It's a really nice font.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Segoe is so good. Criminally underrated.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's honestly one of my favorite all purpose fonts, very clean, but has much more personality than other san-serif fonts like Helvetia or Noto.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It does, but because of that I feel it needs to be used a bit more sparingly. Helvetica (Neue) you can use the entire document; Segoe seems like it works best for headings and such, but maybe I’m wrong and someone does it well.

[–] Tygr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve been using this font in my stuff for years.

[–] comedy@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

As an avowed Calibri hater, thank fuck.

[–] daringdomino3s@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They said it’s part of office 365 changed, does that mean my purchased single-machine license will not be getting a font change?

[–] likeaduck@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You will get the font change

[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

My users, who average 70 years old, will not notice. Except one. She will flip out in a rage.

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have Bierstadt (this same font) and the other new fonts they launched a few years ago?

[–] daringdomino3s@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I honestly don’t know, I always used either calibri or times since I bought the license to help instruct a class during covid.

[–] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The update hasn't happened for me yet, so we've still got some time to get used to Bierstadt a.k.a. Aptos. It has a curve at the bottom of the lower-case l like DejaVu Sans Mono and Cascadia Code, but without the top serif.

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It also takes up more horizontal space than Calibri. I don't think I like it.

Top is Calibri, bottom is Bierstadt: Comparison between Calibri and Bierstadt fonts

[–] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed that it's wider at the same point size. Not sure if it's easier or harder to read yet, especially that "a". Seems a little heavier to counter display technology that makes old fonts so thin (and maybe superthin fonts falling out of fashion?). Probably blends better with Chinese, Japanese, and Korean due to being squarer and having shorter descenders, but I don't trust my eye.

[–] Llamajockey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Fix Windows 11? Naaaa new font

[–] n3cr0@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Aptos is a part of a broader wave of features coming to Microsoft 365. We’re pushing to make the software more expressive and inclusive [...] Judging by the aesthetics, It appears more like an anti-feature to me.

[–] Pantsofmagic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well at least it's not Comic Sans.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve never been a big fan of Calibri. Cambria was great, though. Aptos looks much better as a sans-serif font.

[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

New posts on MS teams seem to have a different font today unless it’s my imagination. The old ones have the old font. Anyone else see this?

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