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[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The only ones who will embrace it are the advertisers....

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 46 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh you mean one of the only two reasons I use this fucking thing? Ad blocking and privacy?

You're shitting on both. That's like... Idk, Craftsman making tools out of plastic and removing the lifetime warranty... Wtf do I even need you for then?

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[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 9 hours ago

This feels like the turning point for Firefox that we all feared would come. They've now switched to outright gas lighting their users. They're trying to convince us that if they take a stab at doing ads the right way, that we can have a web filled with tolerable ads that work for both the user and the business.

Ads and user data collection are the worst part of the internet. Nothing has ever gotten better because of them. And there's already far too much focus in this area. Mozilla just wants to be another exploiter so that they can have a piece of the stolen value pie.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 51 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (11 children)

And, for the foreseeable future at least, advertising is a key commercial engine of the internet, and the most efficient way to ensure the majority of content remains free and accessible to as many people as possible.

I'm afraid they aren't wrong. The majority of people aren't going to pay for access to random blogs etc. So we'd end up with only the big players having usable sites.

People kick off about ads but rarely suggest an alternative to funding the internet.

Back in the day ads were targeted based on the website's target audience not the user's personal data. It works fine but is less effective. Don't see why they couldn't go that way.

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 28 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You posted this on Lemmy.

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

If your product doesn’t generate enough revenue to turn a profit, you don’t have a viable business

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well, Thunderbird gives me hope.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 hours ago

Burn the phoenix again.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago

I don't see how they think it's a good move. I'm not speaking about people being upset. Most of the Firefox users are either people having at least some tech knowledge or people which use it because of a person with some tech knowledge.

And most of these people use an ad-blocker, know how to install a fork and so on. So, from the beginning, I don't know who think it's a good idea other than to kill Firefox.

[–] e0qdk@reddthat.com 50 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Mozilla's non-profit status needs to be revoked.

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[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 123 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

What if we could have a world that wasn't powered by ads? I'd like to get past this "only one way to run the internet" train of thought.

I'm just so tired of ads, commercials and advertising in general. It's exhausting.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 29 points 17 hours ago (9 children)

It's either that, a subscription model of some sort, going to pay to install models, or something else to fund themselves. I'd suggest going to a donation based model, but I doubt there's enough Firefox users willing to pay to even be able to keep it alive more than a year or two tops.

[–] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I would happily pay to download Firefox if they removed telemetry, ads, analytics. Security updates could be free, feature updates could have a small fee. Something similar.

There is a way to fund Firefox without user data and ads. Will it be as profitable, who knows, because quite simply, the vast majority do not want to make it a reality and loose what profit, control, or power they currently hold onto.

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[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago

This breaks my heart.

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