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Mozilla grants Ente $100k (ente.io)

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[–] N0x0n@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Nobody ever talking about lychee ?

Yes okay it's not GPL or written in a fancy new language (PHP is still alive xD). But it's simple, elegant, no UX bloat, no ML or IA stuff... Just a plain simple self-hosted photo manager.

One thing I really liked about it, you can import you external photo's with .xmp files, just one checkbox away.

The tag feature is simple but working as expected. Nothing fancy but it does best what's it's supposed to do !!

Call me old boomer but I really like the simplicity of lychee. It's a bit like how reading an article from miniflux or wallabag... Simple html files without bloating your eyes or your brain...

Just my 2c, nothing to see here !

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

So Ente, like duck?

Edit: just checked it out (yes it's duck), what's the appeal over a self hosted nextcloud?

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is a photo gallery that can replace Google photos, while using nextcloud as a photo gallery is a proof of concept that can't be even considered alpha quality

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hang on there. Yes, NextCloud photos is kinda a dump, not gonna lie. Do not like.

But Nextcloud Memories is a labor of love, and it's been freaking AWESOME. A little bit of Docker knowhow and the NextCloud AiO image is a great combo.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I tried nextcloud photos for ten minutes and it looked like you can add photos to an album only at the moment of their creation. And you need to choose them one by one, don't have "select all". And you can't select photos already uploaded in the past. What? Couldn't think of a worse gallery than this.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah I honestly agree. Memories is a vast improvement, so much so that it should just be the default at this point. I went so far as to get a menu customizer addon to just remove Nextcloud Photos as an option. I feel like it puts off new users more then helps anything.

I'm glad there's other options like the OP link, but I seriously enjoy Memories / Nextcloud for hosting it on my own hardware. Very little maintenance, has an app. Uploads from my phone whenever I plug it in to charge. Basically more than enough feature parity with Google photos that I could finally dump that mess. :)

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

This can also be self hosted and is a much better photo gallery than nextcloud.

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[–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Well ente means "mine"

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I'm not sure why every time I look at this project, it rubs me the wrong way. Anyone found anything wrong with it?

[–] JameUwU@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 days ago

Its self hostable now, and I'm my playing around with the self hosted version it seems fine

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Any guesses why that is?

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[–] ericjmorey@programming.dev 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ente is a beautiful, private cloud for your memories, with apps for mobile, desktop and web.

At Ente, we use Local AI to deliver features like face recognition and magic search, while respecting the privacy of your photos.

We'll now join a cohort of builders pushing technology forward for an AI that is light, private and accessible.

[–] B0rax@feddit.org 44 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So… like Immich?

[–] JustMarkov@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Every time an open-source cloud gallery like Ente or PhotoPrism is mentioned, someone is sure to come along and talk about Immich.

I mean, Immich is cool, yeah, but it definetly is not a gold standard or something. Ente is a much more finished product.

[–] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Standard*

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yes, except it's encrypted and funded by an actual business.

[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

funded by an actual business.

You're talking like that's a good thing?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pros and cons, for sure. Companies like Proton (Mail) and Steam are proof that you can have your cake and eat it too. It's mostly publicly-funded corporations that are rotten. You can also rest assured that they will not abandon the project because they get bored.

Ente also provides Ente Auth for free, which is an excellent TOTP authenticator.

[–] Noxious@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

Immich is funded by FUTO btw

[–] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 11 points 2 days ago

If my instance of immich no longer works, I still have my files.

If an encrypted database of blobs crashes, I hope I can recover it.

When I'm self hosting, I know my preference.

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

No, like a duck.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But with fewer breaking changes.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People really underestimate the value of stability and predictability.

There are some amazing FOSS projects out there ran by folks who don't give a crap about stability or the art of user experience. It holds them back, and unfortunately helps drive a fragmented ecosystem where we get 2,3,5 major projects all trying to do the same thing.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I wanted to like immich, but it felt like everytime I opened it there was a little box saying there was a new version available. Which would be fine except for when that new version wasn't compatible with the server version I was running, and upgrading that frequently needed changes to my compose file because they changed some option or library or something.

I just want something that can store pictures of my family without a lot of tinkering.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The issue here is that these are solvable problems, release compat isn't a new problem. It's just a problem that takes dedicated effort to solve for, just like any other feature.

This is something FOSS apps tend to lack simply due to the nature of how contributions tend to work for free software. Which is an unfortunate reality, but a reality none the less.

[–] myliltoehurts@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

In their defense, they also clearly label immich as under active development with frequent changes and bugs.

Edit: nvm I saw it was already discussed in another reply.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Immich is quite new clearly say they will have breaking changes.

https://immich.app/roadmap/

Stable release planned for this year

The updates are almost always packed with cool new features so I'd rather have an amazing app with a bit of maintenance then get something stable that lacks features. Especially when stability is now just around the corner.

As far as breaking changes go, in the year of me using the docker install I've had maybe 3 updates that required me to change things and each one was leas than 10 mins of work. Pretty basic stuff if you are actually on the selfhosted path. Most people complaining seem to like auto updating apps automatically which seems crazy. I update when I have time to mess around, otherwise it just chugs along super stable.

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I didn't really mention immich directly here.

This is a problem which is endemic to casual software development like many FOSS projects. It's a reality of how free software tends to be built in general vs commercial software.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This being self hostable makes me instantly like this. Something like G photos that I could self host and dump a lot of shit off my phone storage would be amazing.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

I use Immich. It does what you described as well.

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Check out immich, I use that self hosted and it's exactly like Google photos. It even has optional facial recognition.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 16 points 2 days ago

Technical question, if it's e2ee, it means videos can't be transcoded? Modern smartphones encode video at a bitrate that doesn't allow real time streaming on 4g

[–] tkw8@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago

https://github.com/ente-io/ente

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 14 points 2 days ago

Been using it for a while, works well

[–] variants@possumpat.io 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ente supports all files that have a mime type of image/* or video/* regardless of their specific format.

so it handles raw images too?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Considering you can assign any IME to any file, that means technically it supports everything from plain text to proprietary binary data.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Since it's end to end encrypted, Ente just sees some raw bytes, it has no way to tell if what you uploaded is an image or not. So in practice it supports whatever the client can display, so your browser for the web version.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ohhh that makes more sense, thank you

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