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[–] Corno@lemm.ee 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Why does a car need to be connected to the internet? A reliable rule of conduct in aeronautics is that systems which are deemed critical to safety are air gapped from the systems which are connected to the internet, so in the event that those systems are compromised by malware or hackers, the safety critical systems won't also be compromised.

Why is it seemingly taking automotive manufacturers so long to catch on to this principle? Before anyone mentions downloadable features, I do not see that as a means of justification. Like with videogames, if you're paying good money for a product, that product should already be finished by release. Hiding content that should already exist on a car is egregious and the normalisation of it incentivizes manufacturers to release vehicles that are incomplete and should not have been released in their current state.

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[–] MaskedPanda@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FYI: From the article: “These vulnerabilities have since been fixed, this tool was never released, and the Kia team has validated this was never exploited maliciously.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I know the majority of you hate Tesla, but security is something they do take more seriously. They even take part in pwn2own to help find vulnerabilities.

All auto manufacturers should be taking part in that.

Nothing like winning a car to get people to try and break into it publicly.

Edit: Also details on the 2025 event in January just recently announced. https://www.zerodayinitiative.com/blog/2024/9/23/announcing-pwn2own-automotive-for-2025

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 3 points 22 hours ago

I also love how Tesla engineers pay attention to small quality-of-life things like racing games to play while you wait for charge using the wheel as controller, using the built-in 360 camera as dashcam and parking monitor.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 130 points 2 days ago (29 children)

dumb cars will be worth their weight in gold soon

[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

My car got dumbed for me because they killed the 3g network it was running on

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Let the fucking hacking begin. Fuck these assholes. They are milking people out of their last penny, and on top of that they're selling people's driving data to data brokers who sell it to insurance companies that jack up prices.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 56 points 2 days ago (43 children)

There's just no good reason to have anything beyond the radio/nav etc in a car connected to the Internet. Remote start can be done with just the key.

[–] Frog@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 days ago (4 children)

You know what fuck builtin nav. Connect it to my phone and let that be it for navigation.

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