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[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Because the chocolate chip cookie recipe they put on the back of the chocolate chip bag is already the scientifically best possible recipe. It can no longer be improved. That's why cookie influencers have to resort to stupid shit like this. All the good ideas have already been figured out so the best they can do is play pretend with the stupid ideas.

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[–] Sundial@lemm.ee 108 points 5 days ago (12 children)

Same reason people love raw cookie dough. They just like the taste.

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[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Hypothesis: Want chewy cookies. Try cookie recipe, they come out crunchy. Bake for less time. Cookies chewy now!

[–] whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 days ago

Because they are yummy?

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 24 points 4 days ago

You have your preference, I have mine. An underdone cookie is gooey and melty but still brown around the edges, best of both worlds.

[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you ordered a cookie and didn't get what you want, that sucks and is indeed frustrating.

However I don't know what that has to do with anyone else. If someone wants to eat an almost raw cookie, or a too soft cookie or whatever, I don't think that should bother you.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think what bothers him is that he had something that he liked and can no longer find. It may not be the case here, but companies (in the US) are en masse changing their recipes to be cheaper to manufacture and it's affecting the end product.

In the case of something like a cookie which can be made 1000 different ways by 1000 different companies, finding what you like took time, luck, or both. When they change the recipe on you, it's not a simple, "just buy a different cookie, dummy." It's a major undertaking. Sometimes you get lucky and this was the push that allowed you to discover a new, even better, favorite. More often than not though, it's just another part of your day that got a little bit shittier than it was yesterday.

It's annoying and I totally get it.

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[–] SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Salmonella brings people together.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You can get eggs from Salmonella vaccinated chickens, it's just not the norm in north America.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 41 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It’s in the flour not the eggs. Eating raw flour is riskier than eating raw eggs.

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 27 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep. Specifically it’s because the flour is not generally sanitized/processed in any way that removes bacteria from the grain or the finished product.

Flour is traditionally only used as an ingredient and will through the cooking process experience heat high enough to kill any bacteria.

If you want to make safe cookie dough to eat raw at home just spread the flour on a sheet tray and toast it in the oven at ~200 degrees for something like 10 minutes. There’s specific directions online.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 8 points 4 days ago
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Salmonella is eliminated at 165F. Cookies get to around 190-205F when fully baked. So there's at least 25 degrees Fahrenheit between completely safe from salmonella and fully baked cookies.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

When you say trends, is it among people not baking long enough? I love gooey cookies as well, but that looks raw.

Recently I used store made cookie dough (because “safe to eat raw”!) in a cast iron pan to make it more like a brownie, maybe like this. Surprise, it’s much thicker than a standard cookie so needs to be cooked longer than the directions say

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is how I've loved cookies for my entire life. I'm just happy they are easier to find now.

Edit: I'm sincerely amused that someone downvoted me for expressing my opinion on the kinds of cookies I like. I didn't know this was a "ketchup on steak" level issue. 🤣

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 154 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Three things happen during baking that change the flavor of a cookie.

Maillard reaction, caramelization, and the melting of fats. There are more, but those are the three we're going to talk about.

The maillard reaction takes raw flour and turns it brown. It absorbs some of the sugar in the process, and creates a more complex, nutty flavor. Caramelization also browns some of the sugar, giving it a smoky, bitter flavor. They also give the cookie a firm or crispy texture.

You also melt any fats, like butter, that are in the dough. Melted butter separates and spreads throughout the cookie.

There's also often an egg that helps build structure for the baked dough, and sometimes baking soda for fluffiness.

This means uncooked dough is sweeter than a baked cookie. It has a soft, dense, and moist texture that disappears when fully baked. It's butter and sugar held together with flour and egg, and it's delicious.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I often prefer slightly undercooked baked goods.

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I like my cookies medium rare

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 4 days ago

Yay, food science!

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[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I hate crumble cookies as well. Weak unsatisfying texture, and way too sweet before they even add all that syrup shit. Also they're too big, I take like one bite and the sweetness is already unbearable.

[–] nemonic187@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Thank you. That’s the most insulting part. It’s a mediocre cookie at best.

I don’t order these and I can’t talk shit about them at home cuz I trying to be a better partner, so I do what normal people do and go vent on the internets.

I apologize to those who I have upset.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Personally I think the most insulting part is the price.

They make them big to try to justify it, but its still a bullshit high profit margin food.

I think people just like them because they are very fresh. Most places just sell you some cookie in a box made a couple weeks ago in a factory somewhere by robots so it is marginally better than that in theory.

[–] Dagrothus@reddthat.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention the fact that a single cookie is nearly half your daily caloric needs

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[–] downhomechunk@midwest.social 21 points 5 days ago (4 children)

This is a trend? Then why all of the sudden can't I find any cookies in my local grocery stores that aren't hard as tits? This has been my cookie preference for my whole life!!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You’re fondling the wrong tits

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[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 3 points 5 days ago (3 children)

my man if the tits you've been running into are hard, there's something wrong

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[–] arefx@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I love these cookies personally. Soft cookies are so much better than hard crunchy ones.

[–] MycelialMass@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Ya but you can make soft cookies that are actually cooked

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[–] PappyWappy@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago (6 children)
[–] NotMaster@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 4 days ago

And wriggling!

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 3 points 4 days ago

Ooh baby I like it raw

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 days ago

Bite the cookie, Im going in dry!

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[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Because I will eat fistfuls of raw cookie dough. Raw eggs are safe where I'm at anyways.

[–] forgedchaos@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I think it's more the risk from the raw flour than eggs.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's both in the US, uncooked eggs can give salmonella. But most places that have "edible cookie dough" use non-raw flour and no eggs so you can actually eat the dough raw safely.

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[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

You can make safe edible cookie dough pretty easily . The eggs aren't the only issue, it's the flour itself. If you bake it at like 275F for 30 mins in a sheet pan it'll sterilize it. For edible cookie dough that won't be baked you don't even need eggs.

Having said that, I too have eaten my share of regular cookie dough.

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