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Emails reveal Georgia Election Integrity Coalition, a group of officials and election deniers, coordinating in swing state

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Literally plan A is to fucking steal the election... They spent the last 4 years brainwashing The Base to believe the election was stolen so that they can do it brazenly this time and they'll feel justified in doing it...

I'm generally a pessimistic person, but I see absolutely no way that we win this...

People say vote in numbers that can't be ignored, except we never vote in those kinds of numbers and with Trump not being in office and the collective amnesia we seem to have about how terrible he was, I don't see turnout being that great this time around...

[–] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a Georgian who has been closely following this ratfuckery for some time now, I think the odds of Georgia's actual popular votes getting (a) accurately counted and (b) correctly certified and translated into Electoral College votes is are a toss-up, at best. I think it's alarmingly likely that either (a) so many voters get suppressed and so many ballots get illegitimately thrown out for bullshit reasons like "signature mismatches" that it changes the popular vote outcome or (b) MAGA poll watcher sabotage/refusals to certify/fake electors/bad-faith lawsuits result in SCOTUS or some other MAGA-sabotaged court either invalidating GA's EC votes entirely or using the manufactured uncertainty as an excuse to assign them to the candidate who, in actuality, got fewer popular votes.

Voting is absolutely necessary, but also woefully insufficient. We desperately need to be preparing to force the MAGA conspiracists who have infiltrated the elections bureaucracy to do their jobs properly and organizing massive counter-protests. Perhaps most importantly, we need to be doing this despite how the MAGA election deniers have poisoned the well against acknowledging real election fraud, and we need to get over the idea that it's somehow hypocritical or uncouth to use some of the same tactics they've been using to undermine democracy in order to save it.

I believe we can beat the fascists, but in order to do so we have to actually be willing to do what's necessary to beat the fascists, and I have seen precious little evidence that there's any sort of widespread movement towards that.

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The argument they seem prepared to use is: "what's the function of certification if there's no judgment applied by the certifiers?". So knowing this, we need people to completely understand what certified really means. We need to be ready to counter.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Abortion will carry democrats across the line in Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona. Mark my words

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Sure, the abortion issue will result in Democrats getting more actual votes. However:

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

Carrying across the line isn't good enough. It needs to be resounding.

The goal is a repeat of Bush V Gore where in this case Trump leads early on and then the assholes in Georgia call foul on some district essentially hitting pause where Trump was ahead they then petition the SCOTUS to give them a ruling to stop counting after X time as it will now be considered "too long after the election."

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

These people think we don't see them. We do.You don't get to steal elections in this country. Stop whining and get active.

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Georgia is such a shit state, filled with so many shit people. I hope to get the hell out of here as soon as is feasible.

[–] banghida@lemm.ee -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

After some reading of comments, I understand this is about the federal state of Georgia. In the USA. Not the actual country of Georgia.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

The picture of Trump in the thumbnail was what clued me in