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A Casual Mathematical Analysis of the Creepiness of Various Male Character on Voyager (www.desmos.com)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by data1701d@startrek.website to c/risa@startrek.website

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I barely have time as it it. Please, don't make me do the writers, too!

Also, if you actually look into the graph, note that data points have X axis error bars of +-1.

For those who don't want to open Desmos:

Edit: Added the Harry spike for that timeline where he had a kid with Tom's daughter, as well as a gap for Neelix and Tuvok during the whole Tuvix thing.

Another Edit: Fixed the line connecting episodes 69 and 70 for Neelix.

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Was the creepy thing Tuvok did related to Pon Far?

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 14 points 2 months ago

Yeh, but I only bumped him to score 10/100, so I didn't consider it that huge a bump since it's biologically necessary.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is this giving Neelix credit for being less creepy after Kes wasn't there for him to creep on anymore?

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically. I have to say, he was mostly a good uncle figure for the rest of the series. If I went beyond a casual analysis and started giving each character a number every episode, I might find counterexamples.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He should on no account be allowed within 500m of a child, ever. If that means beaming him into space without a suit since the Voyager is only 343 meters long, so much the better.

[–] linux2647@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He seemed like a decent uncle-type figure for Naomi

[–] Jaccident@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

In fairness, by the end of the series she was out of his age range… 4.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

is that chakotay spike actually him, or the holodeck him from 7 of 9's program? it's been a while

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 11 points 2 months ago

I in general just kind of found the entire Seven-Chakotay romance really weird.

In my opinion, Seven wasn't necessarily emotionally mature enough for a romantic relationship. I don't mean to call Seven a child, but because she'd been part of the Borg since she was a kid, it meant Seven never learned some important social abilities. It's not necessarily my place to judge, but I feel like Seven was nudged towards romantic relationships at a point in her life when she wasn't necessarily ready.

Of course, this is really complicated, bordering on a c/DaystromInstitute question. You know, rather than boring you with the details, I'll actually just go create that post real quick, assuming a suitable one doesn't exist.

Also, I'm a just a bit bitter the whole Chakotay-Janeway thing never worked out. I get there was professionalism stuff, but dating your astrometrics officer is probably weirder. I usually don't particularly root for couples in shows, but there was legitimate chemistry between Janeway and Chakotay, especially in VOY:Resolutions.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 7 points 2 months ago

Alright. Here's my Daystrom Institute post on it.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm out of energy but not out of curiosity about the spikes for Paris and the shift for Chakotay, especially since Resolutions was in season 2.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The first Paris spike is Year of Hell, or that time he dated Kes... oh crap, I need to go fix Harry real quick for dating Tom's daughter.

Anyhow, the second Paris spike is that time he got romantically involved with a starship.

The Chakotay spike is mostly my bitterness about the pairing with Seven.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

I think I need to go back and watch voyager again. It must have been at least 10 years since I last watched it.

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 5 points 2 months ago

Also, I don't count Resolutions as a spike since to me, that mostly felt natural, though it's been a hot minute since I last watched it.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 6 points 2 months ago

LOL @ the gap where Neelix died