Violence against the ruling class has no place in politics
this post was submitted on 16 Sep 2024
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I think sometimes when I try to point out that political violence underpins much of society people hear "violence is good actually".
It's frustrating because what I'm trying to point out is actually the opposite. Prostrating yourself lets other people use violence with no checks.
We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror. (Karl Marx)
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I just think people don't like it when their side's politicians and advocates are getting murdered.
Politics is nothing but coordinated violence, in that it is nothing but coercion of people against their own interests. If you're an interested party, than youre adding to the coercion of others. If you stay out of it, then it's not political to you is it?
Politics:violence
Politics:economics
Economics:violence
Try telling people whose rent has doubled or tripled within a decade that economics isn't violence. You'll experience some carnal violence in return, I'm sure.
Politics = violence; it's the NC-17 version, violence all grown up and sophisticated. Sanitized for TV, in it for the sound bites. In fact, I'd say at least half of it is theatre alone. It's even been packaged up for the people to play along from home. The evolution of violence, fun for the whole family. I mean, what else would we talk about come holidays? HELPING each other?!?
Civility is a tool to do your enemy's job for them.
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Oh god oh fuck
"Hello I would like to mentally police myself for free so that people who want me dead might think I'm one of the good ones"
Legitimately had someone compare defacing a Trump sign to firebombing an Elementary School, saying "we are better than them" lmao
no no you dont understand. What I mean is YOUR violence has no place in politics. THUD.
“When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.”
Poverty is violence. Poverty is a policy choice.
Black Panthers > MLK
They certainly made the GOP start caring about gun control if nothing else... They were also damn good with message discipline, and (unless I'm mistaken), did some great mutual aid.
They were also Marxist-Leninists and supportive of AES.
At this point monopoly of violence by the state would be an improvement
Also sounds like America's favorite hobby is back: shooting presidents.
Was there any previous attempts of murder without shooting? And if anyone has statistics of assassinations in other countries by guns vs something else I'd be curious to see. Except Fidel, that's going to take too long and skew the numbers 🤣🤣🤣
I don't think the new assassination fad is especially productive, but a complete state monopoly on violence would definitely not be an improvement. Trump can take a few bullets, it doesn't matter.
I was more referring to what happens when someone gets doxxed or school violence or civilians hating immigrants.
Actually politics has no place in violence.
So you're saying those examples should be part of politics?
I believe the idea is that the person saying that is clearly a hypocrite who has no grounds for their decrying of violence when they support so much of it, and possibly that retaliatory violence in self-defense is therefore justified.
Well that's a lot more information than the first line.