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[โ€“] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 271 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Evidently it really was probably a cucumber? http://artisticlicenseorwhyitrustnoone.blogspot.com/2022/11/bullshit-memes-8-ancient-egyptian.html?m=1

tl;dr - was found with other model food, probably meant to sustain someone in the afterlife

[โ€“] Hello_there@fedia.io 122 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Let me guess. A model carrot, squash was there also. And a drawing of a farmer with his shirt off.

[โ€“] mst@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Hello_there@fedia.io 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Butt plugs and corn ribbed for her pleasure

[โ€“] dumbass@leminal.space 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah picture didnt help their cause, thats a whole bunch of ancient sex toys.

[โ€“] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 7 points 2 months ago

How thoughtful of them to ensure that the deceased would have something to put up their butt in the underworld.

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[โ€“] Tja@programming.dev 31 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] kamenlady@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sustain someone with the ability to have a little sexy time in the afterlife? I like this.

[โ€“] idunnololz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

No it was a final insult, telling them to go fk themselves /s

[โ€“] Alice@beehaw.org 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

People just love to assume that archeologists have no idea what sex or gay people are. Not saying there isn't a problem with that, but the memes are overblown.

I remember seeing a ton of "archeologists: tHeY'rE jUsT fRiEnDs" comments on an ancient illustration of two Egyptian men, when every single source I could find explained why they seem to have been a gay couple.

Seems like a case where a particular claim of a select group was generalised over a supergroup by way of being the subject of memes that ran away with the stereotype.

It's like that one fraud falsifying studies about a specific type of vaccines in an attempt to sell his own, only for people to latch on to the "vaccine bad" part of the story without limit, nuance or critical examination.

Does anyone still know where the original "just friends" claim stems from, in which context, supported by which arguments, what refutations have been offered since and just how widespread among archaeologists it is today?

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[โ€“] M137@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wakes up in the afterlife only to bite into fake food, that's gotta suck.

[โ€“] Lobreeze@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You ever tried eating a mouldy cucumber?

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[โ€“] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 73 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was probably used for religious purposes of some sort

[โ€“] qprimed@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

indeed. coming closer to believed gods is important to some in any society. its just a clear in and out conclusion.

[โ€“] Hupf@feddit.org 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Usage was frequently accompanied by callings to a deity from a trance like state.

[โ€“] scholar@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

A very popular ritual that has survived for millennia

[โ€“] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No you see they know it's a cucumber because ancient Egyptian dildos had a compartment for bees so that users could experience a vibration effect.

[โ€“] fossilesque@mander.xyz 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is the economy model. Made for the common folk, not Cleopatra. (That is just an urban legend btw.)

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[โ€“] Nyx0r@discuss.online 37 points 2 months ago

Likely used for ceremonial purposes.

[โ€“] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The Egyptians weren't always shy, but there do appear to be traces of green paint.

[โ€“] stoy@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 months ago

Perhaps it was located next to a pair of model tomatoes

[โ€“] credo@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Where are the โ€˜?โ€™ marks. Is this how people write now.

[โ€“] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 months ago

Imagine yourself being confused and baffled by something, and asking "Really?". The intonation is rising, as is usual in questions. Imagine yourself hearing someone say something you are completely confident is absurdly false or a lie, and you want to suggest to the person that they're wrong and you know the truth, by sarcastically asking "Really?". The intonation is falling, closer to ordinary statements of fact.

OOP is using the full stop at the end of his "questons" to suggest the second, sarcastic intonation.

[โ€“] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's how people spoke in May of 2021. It was a different time.

[โ€“] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

๏ฟฝ ๏ฟฝ ๏ฟฝ ๏ฟฝ ๏ฟฝ ๏ฟฝ ๏ฟฝ ๏ฟฝ

[โ€“] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh that's cool, let me try.
Hunter2

[โ€“] BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

All I can see is Hunter2 so you're probably fine

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[โ€“] ethd@beehaw.org 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Same energy as "Sappho and her friend"

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Egyptlogists might have some additional context and knowledge that some rando on Twitter might now.

[โ€“] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 16 points 2 months ago (8 children)

sure, but experts have been making bad assumptions before.

Like archaeologists up until relatively recently have been calling viking graves with swords in male, without really looking at the actual skeleton.

[โ€“] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My wife's been reading this book that references this. As well so many other cases of men assuming genders or disregarding women in science, among other things. It's crazy. "hmm that skeleton has wide hips, but it is also buried with a sword, so it's a man". Female physiology traits in a man is way more plausible, than a woman being buried with a sword ... wtf?!?

Anyway, the book is next on my reading list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Women:_Exposing_Data_Bias_in_a_World_Designed_for_Men

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[โ€“] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago

But did cucumbers look like that 4000 years ago?

[โ€“] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Remember that the idiots in the 19th & 20th centuries uncovering all kinds of Egyptian stuff purposefully damaged inscriptions and art because they prominently showed gasp penises!

[โ€“] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 2 months ago

I'm the model of a cucumber Egyptian

[โ€“] voldage@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

As we well know all women and men in history that lived together with someone of the same gender were just friends. There are many historical records in which esteemed historians depicted the factual truth of deep friendships. Luckily for the rest of us, those noble seers always knew all context required and bore no prejudices towards anything whatsoever. That is a model cucumber. It even tastes like one.

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