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[–] dunz@feddit.nu 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Death penalty is always going to be a hard no for me. No one deserves to be stripped of the right to exist. Also, for some crimes, death penalty is too mild... great video non the less, learned something today, thanks for sharing it!

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No one deserves to be stripped of the right to exist.

for some crimes, death penalty is too mild...

So… death penalty is wrong, but evil people deserve to be tortured?

I have to say, this is the most unphilosophical and internally contradictory view on this topic I’ve heard so far. Well done.

[–] dunz@feddit.nu 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, I know. I've tried to figure out a sound reasoning about this. I do not approve of cruel punishments. Living with the knowledge of the pain you caused is a good punishment . Death is an easy out, never said anything about torture, I don't approve of that.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 months ago

I agree (about not having a death penalty but not about punishing worse than death) but for different reasons. I actually feel taking out bad influences for the world. People who left to their own devices will seek to do horrific things. I feel that makes sense. The problem for me is the state or anyone really doing it. One is it is a an irreversible act. Two it is a power/authority that is to absolute and ripe for abuse. Three it stinks of hypocrisy in the sense the state kills those who kill, would we rape those who rape? Fourth as a relatively "civilized" society the process of death penalty is more expensive than lifetime incarceration and if it was not then the process is likely not just enough.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Not telling the prisoners their date of execution seems unreasonably cruel, especially considering that some inmates have been subsequently released/exonerated. Their reasoning of "not causing the inmate undue stress" is just incorrect, while the idea that "their victims didn't have prior warning" is steeped in a thirst for revenge and retribution, rather than justice. That's some Code of Hammurabi level thinking that only retards social progress.