So I feel like I'm doing peertube wrong. I'm trying to find good content, but it feels like every single instance I find is just "here's the linux news, here's the new linux tips, here's the linux gossip, linux linux linux!"

And I do not give a shit about linux. I learned long ago that I'm not smart enough to figure it out. I just want to find the non-tech, non-video game content. I don't know what I'm doing. I want to search all the instances, all at once, and see what the system recommends.

I don't have a peertube account. I have a piefed account. I'm not against getting a peertube account, but at this point, it's ruining the whole point of the fediverse. If I need to register for a peertube account to have a decent experience, what's the point in having all these services be interconnected. Registering for peertube account would be the THIRD account I would have for the fediverse. But at this point, I just want to find the content.

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There really aren't that many active peertube channels. Here's all the non-linux channels I could find:

https://piefed.social/c/blitzcitydiy_channel@makertube.net - electronics and music

https://piefed.social/c/simon.caine_channel@tilvids.com - general technology

https://piefed.social/c/thunderbird_channel@tilvids.com - thunderbird email client

https://piefed.social/c/ewen@makertube.net - photography

https://piefed.social/c/icesheets_climate@tilvids.com - climate

https://piefed.social/c/shifter_cycling@video.canadiancivil.com - cycling

https://piefed.social/c/transit@video.canadiancivil.com - transit

https://piefed.social/c/urbanism@video.canadiancivil.com - urbanism

https://piefed.social/c/coreyartusimagery@makertube.net - art

https://piefed.social/c/dot_social@flipboard.video - fediverse podcast

https://piefed.social/c/thegiddystitcher@makertube.net - crafting

https://piefed.social/c/linuxappsummit@tube.kockatoo.org

https://piefed.social/c/submedia_channel@kolektiva.media - anarchy

https://piefed.social/c/solarpunk@kolektiva.media - documentaries

https://piefed.social/c/boilingsteam@peertube.linuxrocks.online - gaming

https://piefed.social/c/justsomeguy@comics.peertube.biz - comics and movies

https://piefed.social/c/comicuno@comics.peertube.biz - comics

https://piefed.social/c/blender_channel@video.blender.org - blender

https://piefed.social/c/4742f338-1ded-4798-bd85-93e8de367476@peertube.touhoppai.moe - krita tutorials

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If lemmy had a super upvote for the day, I'd use todays on this post.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago

Mbin has boosts.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One feature i would really love on PieFed would be a filter that allowed me to see all the peertube content available there, sorted in the usual ways. Kind of like a meta-topic. I'm pretty sure that would immediately become my favourite way of finding content from there, for whenever I just want to find something to watch. :)

[–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It would be easy to add a post type filter to the search function, then sort it by date... Would that do?

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ideally of course the usual Hot/Top/New/Active, but a search filter would already be a huge improvement on what's out there!

I think I would use it pretty regularly in periods when I have time to kill.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I took a quick swing at that idea but found that when PieFed imports a new PeerTube video it doesn't put any special marker on it to identify it as a PeerTube video. So although I've added a post type filter to the search tool (check this out https://piefed.social/search - set the Type to 'Video and 'Sort by' to 'newest' ) the results you get are all mixed in with other video content.

Oh well.

Along the way I also found a tweak that suddenly makes the keyword search way better so that's a bonus.

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! Just checking it out quickly made me discover !films@fedi.video, which seems to be a great repository of public domain feature length movies from the old days. Wonderful! 🍿

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago

Good find!

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@andrew_s@piefed.social added a software filter to the search!

Here's all the recent PeerTube posts - https://piefed.social/search?q=&community=0&type=0&language=0&software=peertube&sort_by=date&submit=Search

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago

Amazing!

The pace and responsiveness of development in PieFed is unlike anything I've seen before. It's a brilliant platform, thank you so much for developing it!

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Finding content on Peertube sucks. If you want to search all of it, there is Sepia search. But just browsing and perusing is not a thing unless you do like me and make your own and auto-federate. Even then the sorting algorithms are awful.

As for following, you can follow, like and reply to any Peertube channel from Mastodon, Lemmy or whatever.

[–] nikaaa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah at this point peertube is mostly a video hosting system. We still need a good discovery/finding/recommendation system. I think that could be independently developed; for example: upload the videos on peertube and then link and post them here on lemmy to promote them.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

I mean the concept of Peertube is simple, you federate with other servers and then your website is mostly just a "directory" for them. It aggregates them and puts them all in the same place.

The problem is every server I've seen only federates with maybe 2 or 3 other servers, unlike Mastodon or Lemmy that federate with thousands.

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't typically browse and peruse YouTube, mostly just check a select set of channels that I follow, so PeerTube might work well for me. Is there a way to see which (if any) of the YouTube channels I follow are available on PeerTube?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, just type them into sepia search!

[–] phanto@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

Commenting to register my interest.

I will confess that I was tempted to throw some snarky comment about Linux, but I got over the urge.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You're not doing it wrong. It's just a bit like that at the moment.

What Peertube needs is for other Fediverse platforms to build in a filter so only posts which contain video are displayed.

Peertube posts do federate but because there are way less videos produced than text and image posts (for obvious reasons) they are drowned out. Filtering by content type seems like the obvious solution. This is how Pixelfed works (but for still images), so it's clearly possible.

My feeling is that we're still in the first iteration of the Fediverse, where it's mostly trying to replace the functionality of corporate platforms. Which I think has mostly been achieved now. Hopefully it will start leaning into its unique strengths now and become really innovative.

Of course there is also the issue of adoption and Peertube has had less publicity than Mastodon and Lemmy, so it's understandable that there is less content. If you can, contact your favourite youtubers and ask them to start a Peertube channel. If enough of us do this it starts to become a thing :)

[–] nikaaa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was going to upvote but then:

Hopefully it will start leaning into its unique strengths now and become really innovative.

Please stop the corporate garbage talk/pitching bullshit. Can't we have a normal discussion without these buzzwords?

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Woah, shame on me for not getting my thesaurus out for you. I'll be more careful next time...

There's no need to be rude and swear at me. Be polite, offer a correction. If you're against corporations (like I am) then maybe leave their culture of antagonism at the door and help keep the Fediverse pleasant, helpful and cooperative.

[–] nikaaa@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yeah sorry i didn't mean to sound rude. It's just that I've heard too much "corporate bullshit talk" that i can't just stay calm when i hear it.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

OK, apology accepted. And I do agree that commodified/appropriated speech is annoying to hear by the way.

How about a deal; you make more of an effort to be nice, and I make more of an effort to avoid corporate language?

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

What Peertube needs is for other Fediverse platforms to build in a filter so only posts which contain video are displayed.

Latest PeerTube vids available on PieFed - should be quite handy hopefully, because - as you say - they normally get buried by any sort method that isn't 'New'

[–] nikaaa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So I feel like I’m doing peertube wrong. I’m trying to find good content, but it feels like every single instance I find is just “here’s the linux news, here’s the new linux tips, here’s the linux gossip, linux linux linux!” And I do not give a shit about linux. I just want to find the non-tech, non-video game content.

There's also https://pony.tube ;-)

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't look like it. There doesn't seem to be much of anything about discovering compatible things on other fediverse platforms (e.g. MBIN magazines, a.gup.pe groups, pixelfed groups [if they even exist], PeerTube channels, discourse / hubzilla whatevers, Flipboard thingies, etc).

For PeerTube, a good discovery tool is https://fedi.video, but that also involves tootling around on some other instance and copy/pasting handles back to your own platform, so it's not exactly that convenient.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't even know what some of those are!

A.gup.pe

No clue what that is. But the rest of the message just shows how much work EVERYTHING needs. It shouldn't take specialized knowledge, to achieve only a fractured and disjointed experience with that being the best there is.

It's one thing to say youtube sucks, and corporate control sucks......but if you're going to compete with it, I'm fine with the federated seperate instances.....but the platform still has to work!

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a.gup.pe is a 3rd-party effort to wrangle individual Mastodon posts into Groups, so that Group-based fediverse platforms can follow them (a more familiar term for Group is 'community').

Example: https://piefed.social/c/photography@a.gup.pe

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're saying that piefed community is an example of a.gup.pe and all content in that community is all pulled from different mastadon posts?

I feel like I'm wrong, but thats how I'm reading what you said.

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah - those individual Mastodon posts were tagged with @photography@a.gup.pe by their authors, and a.gup.pe picked up in the tag and made it part of the Group so PieFed could display it in a community.

For example: an original post was https://mastodon.social/@zhhz/113068522102706157 and how it appears on PieFed is https://piefed.social/post/225229

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So, you tag it with @photography, but how does piefed know it's targeted?

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

a.gup.pe tells us - they Announce the post the same way that !fediverse@lemmy.world Announced this post. I'm subscribed to both !photography@a.gup.pe and !fedivere@lemmy.world, so get content from both in the same way.