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[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 130 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Our industry as a whole will cease to exist if Trump doesn’t win

That'd be the cherry on top

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

industry

An industry that utilises real resources and to make... nothing?

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The overlap of the people who complain about the Fed creating money is almost 1:1

[–] null@slrpnk.net 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Because inflation and deflation are exact opposites...

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Inflation and deflation have very little to do with making new money. It's a measure of the cost of goods and services, each given a weight based on an estimated effect on purchasing. The largest thing effecting inflation right now specifically is companies increasing profits massively while providing less to the consumer, like groceries, rent, cars, etc. These companies make more and more money by increasing costs, hence the inflation.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“Because bullshit and reality are exact opposites.”

“Because a rando’s take on economics and actual economics are opposites.”

See how that works? I can keep going…

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How does that, in any way, apply to the other commentors remark?

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You replied with bullshit so I pointed out the fallaciously BS aspect of your reply.

What are you confused about?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How is it bullshit to point out the fact that supporters of Bitcoin, which has a fixed supply, would obviously be critical of printing off more of a fiat currency?

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

How is it bullshit to point out that someone’s argument is bullshit?

Keep whining about fiat BS just as other have for nearly a century.

But but but they print money just like they did before I was born! But but but problems! Glen beck said gold! But but but!

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How is it bullshit to point out that someone’s argument is bullshit?

Yes, that is exactly what I just asked you. Are you capable of answering the question, or is shadow-boxing the best you can do?

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Sounds like we’re in a loop.

So let’s take it up a level.

You think printing money is the issue why?

Do you have a link for us to buy gold bars?

Sidebar: I hate Lemmy’s inbox and knowing what the hell happened

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We're not in a loop, you just wanted to call what I said bullshit without understanding it. Once I explained it, you realized you were wrong, and are now trying to pivot.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because inflation and deflation are exact opposites...

I’m not wrong and you are offering “fisher-price-my-first-Econ”

You just keep trying to salvage shit despite me giving you an out. This is a loop stemming from a negatively ranked comment that started the thread. While you keep doubling down on shit

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I clarified it for you:

How is it bullshit to point out the fact that supporters of Bitcoin, which has a fixed supply, would obviously be critical of printing off more of a fiat currency?

Explain how that's bullshit. Or keep shadow-boxing. Up to you.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is not worth it.

You’re asking me to explain why bitcoin supporters would support bitcoin?

I get it! You call the world a fiat printing bs machine. Im sorry im not directly refuting that. All in due time.

In the next five minutes are you okay with tostadas while the man dives from a cave? Why are you so upset?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This is not worth it.

And yet you keep engaging, despite not even being the person I replied to in the first place.

You’re asking me to explain why bitcoin supporters would support bitcoin?

Of course not. Let me spell it out for you again:

The person I replied to tried to use bitcoin supporters complaining about the Fed creating money as a gotcha.

I explained how that doesn't land because:

supporters of Bitcoin, which has a fixed supply, would obviously be critical of printing off more of a fiat currency.

Then you called it bullshit, but have been incapable of explaining why that is. Instead choosing to shadow-box with made up arguments.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So you’re saying that you do not prescribe to bitcoins approach?

You believe that it’s all bullshit and are not saying the whole world’s financial systems are about to topple on a whim?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So just shadow-boxing it is then. Carry on.

[–] CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago

I mean the shadow is pretty clear. You offer no substance.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Plum@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

People pay money for these.

[–] Ack@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that he made a few million on them. It blew me away. It does not compute.

[–] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It does compute if you realize the buyers were probably foreign governments and businesses. If Trump suddenly gets a $3M check from someone that might raise eyebrows, leak to press, get picked up by law enforcement. Trump makes $3M in sales of an imaginary thing online - well that’s just business.

[–] Ack@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, that does make more sense.

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He's the king of the quick cash injection. He's that last little turd that won't flush, no matter how many frauds and bankruptcies and treasons and sexual assaults he's perpetrated and I Do Not Understand.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

No they don’t, shady foreign influencers just launder their payments through this crap.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Mostly I'm a market socialist kind of guy, but some markets need to send the customers straight to the reeducation camps.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

An industry that utilises real resources and to make… nothing?

Marketing? Advertising?

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Their Industry is investement-banking if we're honest

It will never die. Bitcoin will, because it will be killed by the Industry itself since Bitcoins are inherently worthless since they aren't backed up by anything.

[–] vegeta@lemmy.world 87 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“ Orange pill refers to bitcoin’s official color and represents a person’s dedication to bitcoin over fiat currencies.”

And here I thought it was referring to Trump’s color. Perhaps he has been the BTC mascot this whole time?

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Let's not allow them to claim this word - "orange pilled" refers to a realisation of the problems with northamerican suburbia!

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wtf, orange pilled was already coined by Not Just Bikes.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago
[–] WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de 47 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In my circles orangepilled means wanting infrastructure to be like in the Netherlands

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 17 points 2 weeks ago

Trump is all in on bikes? That changes things…

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

What a flock of idiots and assholes.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Fitting that the weird orange felon jumps into yet another scam. That's how he naturally rolls.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

... I guess I probably should've seen that coming.