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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago

"I've always believed that what doesn't kill you, makes you very very weak."

  • Norm Macdonald
[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Don't they usually mutate to less deadly forms? Killing their host isn't exactly a successful strategy.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yes, killing the host is considered a jerk move in the microbial community, but some still take the suicidal path, it's a bacterial insanity issue

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Totally 💯

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

AIDS didn't get the memo, try emailing them.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

HIV won't kill you. It weakens your immune system so other diseases kill you.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

"I didn't kill you. I put an ax in your ribcage so that the bloodloss would kill you"

/s, but only kinda. Whether HIV kills directly or indirectly, at the end of the day the host is still dead and poor HIV has nowhere to live 🥺

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

No but it does mutate at a lighting rate. That's why we can cure it. Something about protein strands constantly evolving.

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Airborne respiratory viruses in humans tend to decrease in lethality. This doesn't really transfer anywhere else. The decrease in severity in is due to selection pressure from human quarantine behavior.

Killing the host is normal in single celled organisms. The most common method viruses leave the cell I by causing it to burst open.

Killing the host is also common in the plant world.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I see my mistake. I was overly focused on airborne data. Malaria hasn't really changed for the better has it. Thank you.

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Cancer is a prime example of op message

Also viruses started somewhere. A lot had to mutate to get them to be so deadly to begin with for deadly ones.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Uh... Cancer is not an organism with its own genes. Cancer is you baby, you're just just getting out of control. Viruses sometimes start deadly but they almost always get less deadly over time.

[–] ricdeh@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not true. As the other commenter noted, bacteriophages (which are viruses) are released from the infected bacterium through the lysis of the bacterium in question. The death of the "host" is literally essential to their multiplication.

[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I stand corrected. Let me adjust my comment. Most viruses, the vast majority, are not deadly to humans. Those that are tend to mutate to become less deadly to humans over time.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the bacteriophage, kind of a good guy virus ? Or is there other viruses with this distinctive shape ?

[–] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As far as I know it's kind of a good guy virus but I think it's very specialised on what kind of bacteria it kills so maybe there is a variant that kills all the good bacteria in us. And that can't be too good, I imagine.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Bacteriophages present in the environment can cause cheese to not ferment.

Bacteriophage - Detriments / Wikipedia.org

Bad guy bacteriophage 😱🧀

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 3 months ago

"If at first you don't succeed, mutate and try again." - microorganisms

[–] dch82@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 months ago

Whatever doesn’t kill you will eventually kill you (when your immune system fails)

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I'm missing something here, because I keep seeing posts like this one that have no content. No images, no videos, not a text post, it's just the title "What doesn't kill ya" with no explanation.

I see all other posts elsewhere fine, it seems to just be posts in this one community, or from this one user maybe? I'm not sure.

I'm on Boost if that makes any difference...

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

The image just loaded very slowly for me (i.e. after about 10 seconds). In some posts it never loads at all, but there is a thumbnail in the main screen. This is on sync.

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 months ago

I'm on Jerboa and there's an image in the post.

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

It's a play on a saying

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Maybe try a different instance? Whether you see an image mostly depends on whether your instance has cached the picture

This community is worse than most at providing alt text

The image is a needlework project in an circular frame. Representations of bacteria and viruses decorate the center of the piece with text above reading "whatever doesn't kill you" and text below "mutates and tries again"

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Killing the host is typically a pretty bad long term evolutionary strategy for something that requires a host though. Better to keep the host alive so it can proliferate you

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Demotivational shoulder patch!