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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 115 points 3 months ago (2 children)

if you have to source your war machines from DPRK.... you might be losing

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 88 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Russia is not loosing. This is just part of the 5D chess Putin is playing. Any minute he will make his master move and conquer Ukraine, destroy NATO and fingerbang your dad. Just wait. You’ll see.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (13 children)
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[–] derpgon@programming.dev 31 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Jokes on you, my dad behaves like he is already being fingerbanged by Putler.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

That's the problem. This is an old school war. If Russia can keep moving the front lines the correct direction them nothing else matters. I don't say this because I like Russia but because it shows how much more support we need to be giving Ukraine. The manpower difference is something like 4 to 1. The casualty ratio is something like 3 to 1 which is high but within Russian standards. If nothing changes Russia will win this in another few years.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's a lot of truth to that unfortunately. Historically, Russia has shown many times that any number of casualties is acceptable .

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 54 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Official and recognized military taxonomists insist that a vehicle doesn't count as a tank unless it's classified manuals and specs have been leaked in the World of Tanks forums.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)
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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

It's not a tank unless it comes from the Tank region of France. Otherwise it's a sparkling armored vehicle.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How far will they go before completely shaking apart? In meters?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Meters plural? Aren't you optimistic.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

There’s always intertia

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Pedantry warning - we use the plural for decimal quantities less than 1 too. E.g. the tank only made it 0.8 meters before collapsing into a pile of low grade steel.

[–] carlosfm@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

They may not be that bad. 7 cylinder engines with 5 valves per engine. Front engine, camshaft at the trunk. Revolutionary

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Technically the Bulsae-4 is an anti-tank missile carrier. Basically 8 TOW missiles on a wheeled BTR.

English source:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/07/30/in-a-possible-major-escalation-it-seems-russia-is-getting-anti-tank-missile-vehicles-from-north-korea/

They're probably extremely vulnerable to Ukrainian drone strikes.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Those don't even look like tanks. Bad author. (OP's author, this article is better.)

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What should I change the title too?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Armored vehicles is probably a safe bet since that's a big catch all term

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Gloria@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I love the post-reddit era, where titles can be changed if they are not correct!

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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Panzer" is a general term in German, meaning armoured vehicle, not limited to main battle tanks (Kampfpanzer) mistranslations are thus exceedingly common.

This in particular is a Raketenjagdpanzer meaning a Jagdpanzer (hunting tank) armed with missiles, not to be confused with the more general category Panzerjäger (tank hunter) which is any vehicle that hunts tanks, not just armoured ones, and not just ground vehicles, and not just vehicles but also units. That is, Jagdpanzer are Panzerjäger which are themselves Panzer.

Some Anglos also get their standard issue underwear in a twist if you call the Gepard a flak tank -- that's quite literally its official designation in German: Flugabwehrkanonenpanzer Gepard, short FlakPz Gepard, more or less literally "flight offwarding cannon tank". An "Infantry fighting vehicle", fuzzy term if I've ever seen one (in Ukraine that can mean a Hillux) is a Schützenpanzer, "marksmen tank".

IMO those translation errors shouldn't be corrected, they can only clean up English terminology.

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Western journalists when any vehicle has the slightest amount of armour: it's a tank!

Anyway, this is sad and hilarious. The "second-best military in the world", everyone!

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

AR-15:Rifle::Tank:Armored Vehicle

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reported as "subject doesn't match headline", however since this case is a subject of translation and there may be variations in translation software, I'll allow it.

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! Can't believe it's been a year since reddit imploded! 15 years there, walked away, never looked back!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It was 13 for me. My cake day was a month ago. Goodbye to Reddit forever as far as I'm concerned. I didn't even get an IPO offer despite being a "power user," probably because I changed my profile to say "FUCK REDDIT!" and gave lemmy.world's URL.

[–] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I shut down every subreddit I modded permanently and was publicly screaming "fuck reddit" and "fuck spez" until the last minute.

Still got an IPO invite I ignored and even a mod meetup invite

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Huh. I wonder why I didn't?

I don't really care since I wouldn't have taken up their stupid offer, but I'm curious now.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

I assumed they sent it to everyone, even my old reddit account with only 2000 karma got it

And even if i wanted, being not a us resident i couldn't even actually get it

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[–] pelletbucket@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

it's called lemon day over here

[–] mecfs@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

For more info on why search Lemon party.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Were there also NK soldiers? Or they just gave them the vehicles?

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