ideally, fake content should have no impact whatsoever on anything, and, people giving importance to it should be the ones seen as weirdos.
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It should, but high-quality fakes trick a large chunk of the population. As such, they ought to be treated in the same way as other non-consensual content
I would say that appearing in a porn movie should not affect your life at all, whether real or fake.
It's not just porn; you can deep fake pretty much anything, including racist rants and criminal acts.
That's a nice culture shift to push for but it's not where we're at. It could also be nice to have a society where nobody really has a great attachment to material things so you can just borrow your neighbors lawnmower or car and it's no big deal at all. We don't live in that society either so we have laws against theft.
It depends of who gets to see it.
it can affect everything in your life.
It shouldn’t. People are ingrained to be prudes.
Imagine watching porn (as most people do, or have done in their life) and condemning the actors. I for one am very happy that people are doing the job.
To star in a porn movie. I personally wouldn't have a problem with it, but i know that my family and friends wouldn't even try to understand or just ignore it, they would just see the "dirty" word porn and panic. They would panic, because suddenly they feel forced to confront themselves with the world that is behind the word.
Now more than ever, we need Dr Ruth
Ooh, I love this argument.
"I'm an atheist so I'm above the 2.4 billion religious people on the planet"
No, people are not 'ingrained to be prudes'. They have values, and those values are manipulated by people in positions of power.
Like the churches.
We don't live in that world.
This is completely fucked up - neighbors filmed me in my own apartment and apparently also played around, deepfaking the footage of me on my bed watching TV to something where i do i don't know what.
Some neighbors have informed me, but i never myself saw anything.
By the way a lot of neighbors look at me, it must be pretty bad.
I don't know if i even want to see it and also i don't know what to do, because i don't know who made it.
It all started a few years ago and from what i heard, it was initiated by neighbors that don't like people that smoke weed. Since i worked from home since from before COVID, neighbors started talking about me. Wondering if i grow weed at home and that kind of stuff.
I had neighbors stalking me, hiding behind trees and observing .... pretty deranged
God this is ridiculous, sorry to hear you have to deal with such idiotic bullshit.
Thanks and yeah, sometimes people around you are not nice, but you can't let yourself down in such a situation. It's hard to ignore the noise, but there are more important things to do, more important things happening in life.
Things that really matter.
This is horrifying. I really hope it's just the weed making you paranoid
I thought it would be, when it began...
Edit: tbh i stopped telling friends or family about it, because they all said the same thing "some less, it must be paranoia".
It's unbelievable, that such dynamics exist in a community. It's as unbelievable as Trump existing and so many people hearing his words and deciding to follow his lead.
Ah, the other thing my neighbors seem to have a massive problem with, is sexuality. I had a drunken neighbor stand in front of my window, screaming "you fucking fag, i'll kill you".
I'm not even gay. That was a real mind bender.
I think because I'm not the typical male doing male stuff. They can't categorize me, so i must be one the "gays" in their little heads.
In this scenario, that seems well worth pressing charges. You’re describing a harassment campaign that is well beyond anything ok. Even if you’d normally disregard a drunken fool, he knows something. If for no other reason press charges to see if you can find out wtf
It only happened one time, i was in the kitchen and when i reached the window, be was already going down the street. I really couldn't see who that was...
Edit: The drunken guy screaming, that happened only once.
I hate that people are so stupid they'll form an opinion of someone based on evidence that's extremely easy to fake, or no evidence at all. And then they'll hold on to that opinion for dear life even when the dearth of real evidence is pointed out to them.
Ideally any pornographic content, even fully engaged, consented to for publication, should have no bearing on a candidate's ability to hold office yet....here we are.
There was a very promising woman running for office and her onlyfans was leaked by an incel. It caused her the race.
Right? Can we stop pretending adults are chaste priests? We have object permanence - we know everyone has a naked body despite the clothes we wear. If it's consensual adult sex, no one should care at all.
So she had onlyfans account where she tried to disguise her identity while also running a political campaign and someone leaked it? I'm sorry but that's just dumb.
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I've been internet bullied, and I never gave a shit about anything that was typed into a FB local hate group I never looked at, but the amount of stupid fucking people who want to track you down and say something about it is fucking ridiculous. I didn't even have anyone who approched me say anything like mean or confrontational, just like this weird ''I found the guy the other guy said the thing about!!!'' But holy shit it is annoying how many other random ass people decide they need to care about this online bullshit in real life.
Social media often acts as a drug on many people who become weird and annoying.
i think society is just starting to react against its bad effects the same way temperance movement and prohibition was a reaction against alcohol abuse.
We are just at the beginning of those new norms and ways to deal with it. You are part of a better future.
Might be unpopular opinion but deepfakes should be considered identity theft.
Eh... identity theft sentencing, assuming you go federal, is 2 years minimum. And most cases are civil.
I prefer fraud, which carries 5 years. Add wire fraud on top of that and now you're talking 20 years.
If doing it ruins the victim's life the sentences should have an equal effect on the perpetrator's life. So yeah I agree with your assessment too.
Add computer fraud to that list and now they can't use a computer unsupervised.
Hot take: Deep fakes may be much closer to rape (and maybe should be adjudicated similarly) than they are to identity theft or fraud because of the harm they cause and because that social assault is more closely related to power and consent than a simple fraud.
Add in breaking revenge porn and character defamation laws and the perpetrators could theoretically get a good chunk of time in prison depending on where the court is located due to differences in state laws.
actually a hot take.
I'd actually like to see a debate explore this thought further
I think it's very clear it's libel. We had this framework in place for decades! Technology being better doesn't just flip the issue to another legal genre 🙄
There’s got to be some sort of copyright violation too
If copyright was made to protect people maybe, but as it stands copyright is another form of ownership available to those with the means to hold it and the money to enforce it in court. A whole host of not legal stuff becomes very legal once you realize the other party doesn't have lawyers on retainer.
That's an awful legal take, but I understand what you're saying.
TL;DR: 4chan
Where video game journalism is sacrosanct.
This whole situation is terrible, from having realistic fake pornography made distributed of someone, to the fact that being sexually active is such a massive taboo - especially for a woman - is all absolutely terrible and ridiculous.
These acts are obviously a kind of organized mass sexual harassment, and should be treated accordingly.
If she had actually made porn at any point, that should not in any way be a mark on her character, least of all if (as was in this case) the creation of said content was nonconsensual.
What a sick, terrible world we live in.
But hey at least we're also finishing off the environment as well with the energy consumption from this absolutely pivotal piece of shit technology. /s
I feel like using the apps you just use Google to find is a very stupid way to get it traced back. There's no fucking way all those apps aren't tracking who is uploading what, and doing facial recognition too.
Now, granted, the providers of such content may not be bright, but I'd at least do something for a CYA when governments start outlawing and investigating.
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