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[–] style99@lemm.ee 174 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Kamala should really be doing much better going against a despicable convicted rapist and a couch fucker.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 143 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

She will be.

I'm increasingly confident about a blue wave this election. First multiracial female president in a time when bodily autonomy is under attack.

And that's all without taking into account who and what she is running against.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 86 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Don’t get overconfident. Remember to vote!

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 32 points 1 month ago

Can't have a blue wave without a blue vote.

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[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden should have done better. Anyone who is not a rapist felon should be doing better.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's insane how much of politics comes down to ~vibes~. Yeah Biden was too old, but I still can't fathom how many were ready to let Trump win just because voting for a tired grandpa "didn't feel good".

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

America is increasingly an aesthetic country IMO.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

America is increasingly an ignorant country IMO. Probably because half of our politicians are actively trying to dismantle public education.

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[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 23 points 1 month ago

Since her campaign is only a week old, it will take some time for polling to catch up, but hopefully not much longer 🤞

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 152 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter, vote anyway.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 78 points 1 month ago (1 children)

In fact, the lead is only erased if people actually show up to vote. Otherwise, it's still there.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

And even if someone thinks Harris has it locked in. Vote to spite Trump. Go out of your way to say "fuck you pig" at the ballot box.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 98 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Polls don’t mean anything if people don’t go out and vote, and tbh I don’t think Harris is leading in battle ground states enough to really say there might be a “blue wave”.

Dems and allies may be in for a shock if they think Harris is a confirmed winner, from what I can tell it’s close and may remain close. Literally every vote may count https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/07/25/trump-harris-swing-state-polls-harris-trails-trump-in-most-key-battlegrounds-but-outperforms-biden/

[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 111 points 1 month ago (12 children)

As a Non-American, the fact its a close race a fucking bonkers. You guys need to get your shit together.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

If the election were by popular vote, as it should be, this wouldn't be an issue at all and Trump would have lost the first time. Our shitty system gives the hateful assholes far more representation than they should have.

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[–] WhiteHairSuperSaiyan@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s so hard, I live in a non-swing state that is very heavily republican. I have conversations with these people daily. They all want the same things as me, have families, great values, and are genuinely great people. But as soon as politics comes up they shut down. It’s only republican or nothing else. I don’t know if what a candidate in states like mine believe matters anymore. It’s just what they have always voted and always will vote. Politics just lives almost in a different universe for these people. It’s so far removed sometimes it feels like a fantasy that doesn’t really change your daily life. There is just no way to have a productive conversation anymore. Terrible and makes me sad because I think if they really understood, they would switch their vote because they often are hurting themselves.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

So many things working against normal Americans to rig things in favor of the crazies.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure after 2016 nobody is assuming anything. Especially not when Harris is still behind Trump by 2 points. It would be insane to say "we're behind 2 points but that's within the margin of error, so good enough!"

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 74 points 1 month ago (8 children)

The ear 👂 tampon made him look weak and reminded everyone that he lies about everything.

Magically, zero damage to a “shot” ear 2 weeks later. Sure, Trump 😆🤣🤡

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (56 children)
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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

A week that occurred during the period where the GOP should have been experiencing their post-convention bump. The Democrats haven't had their convention yet, so that should give them another few points.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Go for overwhelming victory. Win with your vote and hit the streets to celebrate and show support. Make the inevitable attack against the election results sound ridiculous.

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

I will vote against donald trump.

[–] RinseDrizzle@midwest.social 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

None of this fluff matters. Vote like fascism is knocking on the doors of the oval office.

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[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Fuck the republican traitor filth.

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[–] daraul@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'm not American, so, to me, Kamala is the clear choice over a convicted felon. Americans I know are telling me she's "done nothing" and is "a waste of space". Why are people saying this?

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Why are people saying this?

Probably to cover for racism and/or sexism.

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 14 points 1 month ago

Because you're talking to either tankies or conservatives, both of which have a vested interest in sowing division within the populace

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Sad trump, has dementia, his best friend is lab grown JD vance

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Just remember this picture everyone, no matter how good it looks right now. And YOU probably don't need to see this, but maybe you have friends who do. I have a few who will be getting this in a text message in October.

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[–] ThatOneKrazyKaptain@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One thing worth noting about how much the devil is in the details.

Arizona and Nevada are still leaning pretty solidly R at the moment.(Trump's hispanic margins have steadily gone up since 2016, dropping the wall focus helped a lot). Wisconsin and Michigan are the closest to going D albeit Trump still leans ahead. PA is in the middle and is the most important of the set. (North Carolina is the strongest R of all 7, and Georgia is the Libertarian Ex-Democrat Chase Olivers homestate which combined with Cornell West's strong focus there and the election commission shenanigans means those two are out of play barring some good luck and Roy Cooper being picked. Trump would have won Georgia in 2020 with no third party vote and those have leaned left since. I don't consider them swing states unless Andy or Roy are on board).

In the Rust Belt Focus scenario(They pick Shapiro or Walz and make Pennsylvania the biggest focus as it's the most important state, and manage to finish ahead in all 3, at the cost of Arizona, Nevada, and the Southern States), the final score is 268-270. A win, but a damn tight one.

Except...Nebraska. Nebraska is putting a law up in September to change the way their state distributes to be Winner Take All. If it goes through it would be passed in October, taking away one D vote from Omaha and giving it to R. (Maine has threatened to do the same if Nebraska does, but they wouldn't have it done til after the election if they did, not enough time). That would change the above scenario to a 269-269 decided by the current House...which is Trump run and even if it wasn't it's state by state and more than 26 states are safe red even in a blue wave scenario. Though it would leave the VP pick to the Senate, which is democrat right now, and while it couldn't be Harris due to her current spot anyone else would be came. So there'd be a very real chance of a Trump/Shapiro ticket which would be a dysfunctional nightmare and would have a massive chance of one of the two getting murdered.(I can't find a source if it's the current senate or the newly elected one as they get inaugurated seperately from the president, but if the senate falls which looks likely the Republicans can pick the VP, and while the House is leaning democrat due to it being state by state it would be R regardless).

This ALSO happens in the reverse scenario, where the Dems focus on the Southwestern States with Mark Kelly(taking Arizona and Nevada) AND manage to put on enough pressure to take Wisconsin and Michigan(which are the closest and Kelly while he isn't a winning deal there is still better than nothing), but are unable to win Pennsylvania(which is a lot more red leaning and without Shapiro or Walz is probably going red). 270 - 268 win for Democrats...unless Nebraska changes the law in which case it's a tie, House picks, see above.

The specific configuration of which states go where makes a tie super likely this year especially if Nebraska switches their rules(which isn't unconstitutional, they picked a weird unique system and they can unpick it, the other system is used by 48 states that's all above board. The scummy part is the timing as it would leave Maine without time to change their own system before the election and thus secure an extra R vote without an extra D vote from changing Maine). There are also tie scenarios in the event Nebraska doesn't change, namely the "Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia go blue, everything else goes Red" possibility if someone like Beshear or Cooper is picked ends in a 269-269 tie, as does a couple of scenarios where Maine-State swings Red(which it has come extremely close to more than once), turning narrow Blue wins into ties. And if those scenarios happened alongisde a Nebraska change they'd suddenly be 270-268 clean wins.

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[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Momentum is everything in politics.

[–] Unlocalhost@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For those keeping score

Trump when he thought he was going to lose in 2020 went and tried to go after voting rights by having mail machines taken offline

This time he can't and is now falling behind. His underlings efforts and his rhetoric as we close in on the election will be voter suppression and intimidation

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