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https://beta.maps.apple.com/

It doesn’t seem to support Firefox or mobile browsers, at least not.

Maps on the web is compatible with these web browsers

On your Mac or iPad

  • Safari
  • Edge
  • Chrome

On your Windows PC

  • Edge
  • Chrome
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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Ah come on! Why no Firefox support?!?

[–] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just tried it on a Firefox fork on Android. Works fine if you spoof the useragent.

I hate that bs

[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

For people like me who thought they have to hack into the Pentagon to spoof their Browser data: you can do that by using chameleon, an extension thats at least in the Firefox add on page

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

For a while Apple artificially blocked signing in to your Apple ID with physical passkeys (like a Yubikey) on Firefox even though the browser supported it just fine.

Their "iCloud for Windows" browser extensions didn't support Firefox either last time I checked (needed for syncing bookmarks and the password manager).

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

🤷‍♂️ It’s in beta, so I wouldn’t assume that support won’t get added.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I would. Apple has a long history of intentionally crippling its services on Firefox.

[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I get it. It's still beta, and we're only like 2% of the market. Makes sense not to worry about us yet.

[–] art@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not compatible with Firefox is the fastest way to know they don't follow web standards. On brand.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 5 points 2 months ago

I dislike Apple more than most people, and they are indeed terrible with standards in general, but with web standards they're doing the world a bit of a favour by pushing WebKit (based on KHTML) on all its users. WebKit is open source and used in for example GNOME Web.

Had it not been for Apple nobody would give a shit about creating websites that work outside of Chrome.

[–] Vash63@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

2% and shrinking with every major service that isn't compatible

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Then we'll make our own fedi-services with blackjack and hookers, someday… One can dream.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What is this shit?

Oh wow another proprietary maps service that uses opensource data that's years late! wow amazing!

[–] shoki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

apple maps uses openstreetmap underneath? but I think they add a lot of other data like traffic and poi details

[–] burble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm confused, because doesn't Duckduckgo Maps already use Apple Maps?

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Kagi Maps has it as an option too. And it works on Firefox. 🤷

[–] Camilo@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't know Kagi had a maps functionality. It's interesting, but I couldn't find a way for it to tell me public transportation directions, the only reason I keep using Google Maps...

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah I can only find driving directions. I've come across other apps over the years but only ones on Google Play Store. I don't think I've seen any mobile apps that are open source and do my region.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 33 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you wanna degoogle, https://www.openstreetmap.org is the way to go.

For your phone:
https://organicmaps.app (simple, easy to use)
https://osmand.net (more features)
https://www.magicearth.com (proprietary, with traffic info)

[–] azron@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trade one master for another. All these companies have the same playbook on a slightly shifted timeline.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 months ago

„tired of sucking one Multimillion Dollar companys balls? Just Suck the balls of another!“

[–] faizalr@kbin.run 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can't open it because I'm on Linux and Firefox.

[–] bhez@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It won't open in Brave on Linux either.

[–] faizalr@kbin.run 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Seems like they developed it for specific browsers.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

Seems like I won't be using their bullshit.

[–] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

Seems like they ~~developed it for~~ arbitrarily locked it down to specific browsers using the user agent.

[–] ppb1701@ppb.social 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@davel In my area Apple Maps is usually better than Google Maps.

[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I remember when Apple Maps was a joke. These days it’s just simply better than google maps. Never thought I’d say that.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

That happens a lot to Google products.

[–] ppb1701@ppb.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

@ThirdWorldOrder Same, I remember trying it early on and it was awful

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

I switched to iPhone about 18 months ago and refused to use Apple Maps at first. I tried Apple Maps when they added offline maps (I live in rural NM and that is a must). I hardly use Google maps any longer now.

Getting a place updated in Apple Maps is proving to be a a little more difficult than it was in Google maps though.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

They managed to import OpenStreetMap data

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 9 points 2 months ago

As others have said. Just use opensteeetmaps.

They're the best (even for hiking)

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 8 points 2 months ago

lol, I didn't even know that it wasn't available on the web.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Tee hee. Not supporting iPhone? Yes it has an app …. I just find that really funny.

Safari and (chromium) browsers. Huh

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 5 points 2 months ago

i’m confused… apple maps wasn’t available on the web? you’ve been able to send apple maps links forever, and they’ve had an embedding api where you could embed apple maps into web pages :/

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

At least not.

[–] kionite231@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I really hope they will release an Android app :)

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 7 points 2 months ago

OrganicMaps already exists :p