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[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Exempli Gratia" literally translates to "Example Given", so I'd say yes, it does stand for that?

[–] LiquidSunset@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No. It translates to ‘by way of an example’.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're talking about the literal translation, not the conceptual translation. They're also a little off.

Gratia literally translates to "grace". Exempli gratia, with exempli used in the genetive case, directly translates to "graced examples". More appropriate English would say "for the grace of examples", and a better, localized translation would say "for the sake of example". It's commonly translated to "for example" since that would be the most common phrase to communicate the concept in English.

All these years later and college Latin finally was useful.

[–] LiquidSunset@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Sorry to be that guy, but acksherly in this case gratiā is ablative, not the nominative that you’re trying to force it into. So it means ‘by grace’ (or ‘by way’). And then, as you say, exempli is genitive. Therefore the two-word phrase can literally be translated ‘by way of an example’.

E.g. and i.e. are common. Other examples of latin used in English writing include scil., short for scilicet, or viz., for videlicet, both in English meaning ‘namely’ or ‘to wit’; and sic, which means ‘thus’, used to indicate that any perceived error is in the source material that you’re quoting. That latter is often wielded as quite the slap down!

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Pic of text with unrelated image.

“Cool guide”

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Here’s a couple mnemonics to help you remember which one to use:

  • i.e. = translate this in your head to “in etherwords”
  • e.g. = translate this in your head to “example given”
[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just read "e.g." as "for egxample", and "i.e." as "that is"

[–] yimby@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

i.e. as "in effect" is even easier

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You think a bunch of words can stop me? The only letters I fear are 911

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry to tell ya this, but those are numbers not letters.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Are these letters or numbers for you?
5318008

[–] YaDownWitCPP@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Clearly letters.

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

You are wise in the ways of the secret arts.

[–] dogsnest@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What does that stand for exactly?

[–] late_night@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Queen Elisabeth Dead :(

[–] insufferableninja@lemdro.id 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

quod erat demonstrandum, "which was to be demonstrated". it's one of the several ways to conclude a formal proof

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I know it is for concluding a proof. Just did not know what it was supposed to be in latin.

[–] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Quod Erat Demonstrandum - what has been demonstrated. (Or something like that..my latin sucks) Oversimplification - "I have shown proof of the statements made."

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

when i say e.g. I'm actually abbreviating "example given"

[–] Lyre@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thats the cool thing about language that people dont really seem to understand. Meaning is defined by what we collectively believe, not latin origins.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

The meme isn't about what any schmuck thinks it means. Oh, I'm sorry, the COOL GUIDE.

[–] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

No, it's not what you believe. It's what it is, and it is Latin.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 1 points 2 months ago

Aut viam inveniam aut faciam

[–] polonius-rex@kbin.run -4 points 2 months ago

unfortunately in practice knowing this distinction is essentially pointless