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Obama, Pelosi, Schumer and 2/3rds if Democrats want him out but he's refusing like an old man whose grown children are trying to take away the car keys before he hurts someone.
Unlike those grown children, Democrats don't hold the same love and care for grandpa to force them to grow a pair of balls to know that it's in everyone's best interest and force the issue to pass.
"Most important election in my life" my ass; all that they have to do is stop helping a genocide and they would win, but no.
Most important election in my life
Nothing else at stake here other then his election apparently. Can't help but think about that press release where he blurted out "how do I make this not sound self-centered" before answering why he was wasn't stepping down. Ouf.
I think at this point it's because the DNC is going to shove him down our throats anyway with their expedited digital vote next Friday so instead of causing even more disruption by throwing a wrench into that at the absolute last minute which will cause bad optics for Democrats, they're just resigned to losing entirely.
"Funny" thing is people keep saying "the rich are safe so they don't care if we lose to a fascist." and they couldn't be more wrong. I don't for one second think Trump isn't going after the DNC as well as the party itself.
“Funny” thing is people keep saying “the rich are safe so they don’t care if we lose to a fascist.” and they couldn’t be more wrong. I don’t for one second think Trump isn’t going after the DNC as well as the party itself.
i think that we're on track to repeat history and the last time this happened the rich either fled or switched to facism to protect their wealth.
Bribery is legal now so the rich think they'll just bribe it away.
You were doing okay until the genocide thing. I doubt the "genocide" even enters into it for most independent voters.
I think it's foolish to chase "independent" voters (which I assume you're saying to mean the mythical "moderate"). What Biden is fighting is apathy.
Joe Biden being unwilling to call out the genocide in Palestine absolutely drives apathy among voters who feel disenfranchised by the current two party system.
If the Democrats truly cared about winning elections, they'd court the left and drive voter engagement. If we drive up turnout, the Democrats win every time, even with the ridiculously broken electoral college.
Just who the fuck do you thing you are using history and logic?
Democrats are about to get fucked hard, and their hubris did it to them
Kind of a rock / hard place situation.
If they "force" him out without him dropping out, by faithless delegates or somesuch, it would reveal the entire process of selecting candidates is actually a meaningless farce (which everyone already kinda knew, but no one seems very interested in dispelling that myth just yet).
If he won't consensually drop out within the next week I don't see how they get rid of him without it being an even bigger clusterfuck.
Alright this is getting fucking ridiculous. If he won't exit with dignity then just 25th amendment his ass.
The Dems don't want him to exit. They have the means and they know how to use it, so wanting to force him on us has to mean that it's what the party apparatus wants, which is really just what their rich and corporate donors want
Maybe, but if Schumer, Pelosi, and Schiff are all working to get Biden out, I assume at least a sizable chunk of the leadership wants him to go.
add obama to that list but it doesn't seem to matter; he's dead set
Then they just need to remove him. Change the rules before the convention to release the delegates. Have his cabinet declare him unfit for office. It would be much better for the party's chances in November if he would bow out gracefully, but if he won't do that, take the choice away from him. He will lose, so we have to do something.
Also, I think Biden might be doing a good job at "party unity" - in that, a lot of the party seems to be united in him not being the 2024 candidate.
What if the party unites to oust him?
They'd need to be in the same page for his replacement, or it'd be a shit show. A failed attempt would also look awful
Like the DNC saying it to anyone left of Reagan, Biden doesn't want unity. He wants obedience.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
As more Democratic members of Congress urged him to drop out — bringing the total since his disastrous debate against Trump to nearly three dozen — Biden remained isolated at his beach house in Delaware after being diagnosed with COVID-19.
“By passing the torch, he would secure his legacy as one of our nation’s greatest leaders and allow us to unite behind a candidate who can best defeat Donald Trump and safeguard the future of our democracy,” said Heinrich, who’s up for reelection.
Separately, Rep. Sean Casten of Illinois wrote in an op-ed that with “a heavy heart and much personal reflection” he, too, was calling on Biden to “pass the torch to a new generation.”
Biden, 81, tested positive for COVID-19 while traveling in Las Vegas earlier this week and experienced “mild symptoms” including “general malaise” from the infection, the White House said.
But among Democrats nationwide, nearly two-thirds say Biden should step aside and let his party nominate a different candidate, according to an AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll.
Associated Press writers Joey Cappelletti in Lansing, Michigan, Ellen Knickmeyer in Aspen, Colorado, Steve Peoples in Milwaukee, and Josh Boak, Will Weissert, Mary Clare Jalonick, Seung Min Kim and Stephen Groves in Washington contributed to this report.
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