I really wish more online personalities would move to Mastodon, right now it's hard to justify when most of what I use Twitter for is to follow different online creators and such. And just none of them are moving over yet. It looks like Bluesky is where a lot of them are looking. It's also decentralized, but honestly I'm not a big fan of jumping on another Jack Dorsey project. I don't like ActivityPub as a tech myself and would be more interested in a holepunch kind of approach myself, but honestly it's the most mature decentralized tech there is right now and it seems like the world is moving that way. Just wish the world would move quicker!
this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2023
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It’s also decentralized, but honestly I’m not a big fan of jumping on another Jack Dorsey project
Jack Dorsey is the reason why some of these perennially online personalities moved to Bluesky. The AT protocol maybe decentralized but there's no unofficial instances of it yet (afaik).
I'm on both, and both vibes are pretty great. I prefer Mastodon simply because the app is superbly made, tiny file size, no trackers etc. Bluesky is a buggy mess right now. Also, 3rd party apps on Mastodon are amazing.
I wouldn't consider another VC money backed app/service anymore no matter how good the tech might be. I hope we all remember the hard lessons from the fiascos from the recent months.
This brings up my main questions with mastodon and lemmy… who is going to pay the server costs at scale?
It would be nice if those mechanisms began sooner than later.
I'm tossing $10 to both a month. Many of us are doing that to avoid being the product.
It will need to be by donation and/or sponsorship, systems for which are currently in place for most of the larger instances.
My hope is to see academia, web hosts, and non-profits involved at some point too. I think the software is just too immature at this early stage to expect much in this regard. Once more advanced safeguards are in place (content filters, admin tools, etc.), it may become more viable from a liability perspective.
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Also, remember there are a bunch of nice 3rd party options for Android, like: Tusky (personal favorite), Fedilab, Megalodon, & Tooot
I've been trying Tusky and Fedilab. They are better experiences for sure.
Just tried the new official app and it is much better than what it was before but the 3rd party offerings are still ahead as of now.
Just my 2 cents.
Wait Tusky is not the official app? I always assumed it was
I've heard that the official app was initially thrown together at some point around the time Mastodon first blew up due to Twitter...uh, blowing up, in a different sense. Basically, "it would really help onboarding if people had an obvious choice of official app to use". At least, that's what I've heard. Never verified this myself.
Tusky is definitely decent though.
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I tried to use mastodon but it never stuck for me. Mostly because of the lack of communities that I'm part of on twitter. Ever since musk's takeover, I've been using twitter less and less.
Same here. I love how fluid Mastodon's app is, especially compared to Lemmy's. But I scroll for a bit and there's nothing that interests me on my timeline.
No one is going to feed you content. It's a different way to think and consume media. You just gotta start following people or hashtags and see which content and people are posting things that interest you. Go the the local feed of the instance of the world feed and watch things unfold.
But you gotta bootstrap it. There's a lot of interesting people and content in it.
There's a few sites that help with discovery by listing relevant people and topics.
There's hashtags important to follow at the start, for example #fediverseMigration where lots of posts trying to help new people and guiding them appear.
I know it may hurt a little at the beginning, but it's so worth it and rewarding. So, don't quit and give it a little bit to grow on you. It's a new experience so not everything will feel similar to what one knows previously.
And, the amazing thing that on mastodon one being able to directly interact and comment on lemmy posts is just mind-blowing.
So. Good luck. And Thanks for all the fish.
Seriously, follow hashtags! If friends start to join boost their early posts so other people can find them too. You take the place of the algorithm on Mastodon, so you're ultimately responsible for curating your experience.
Though I will say, don't use the offical app. It lacks a federated timeline still, which is weird. If you like that UI though, Moshidon is a fork that adds some customization and the federated timeline, which is a neat way to see what's goin on.
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One of Mastodon's upsides, the lack of an algorithm also hurts it, I find.
It's surprisingly difficult to find new and interesting users to follow, since they don't suggest anything, but at the same time, the only way to find users is seemingly to browse your local instance's users, which won't cover interesting things from other instances (unless they're specifically boosted).
Best thing for discovery in Mastodon is to follow hashtags. This is algorithm-like in that you will see posts from people you don't follow, on the topics you have an interest in.
Discoverability was largely the reason why I got in fights with Mastodon users over the platform being in a bad place when Twitter had its first wave of musk awfulness.
I find that the system is now much improved, but man, I can't stress out just how bad an impression I was given that everyone seemed to think searching posts by tags was a bad thing, and that tags in general were, in fact, objectively broken at the time. Like, people go on social media with purposes in mind.
It's fixed now. Tag activity is shown correctly. Tag history also gets shown correctly. You can also follow tags. That's all I wanted, and acknowledgement of it, not a philosophy discourse.
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Despite mastadon being more active, it seems less lively. I guess it's because I preferred Reddit over Twitter in the first place.
Lemmy is also pretry similar to old.reddit. No recommendation or anything so its an easy migration.
I have only used Twitter and Mastodon sporadically, but its definitely more of a pain to discover communities since its more user oriented
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Maybe I should give Mastodon another try.. I couldn't really find anyone to follow.
To get an immediate curated feed, I recommend following @lisamelton@mastodon.social. She boosts all sorts of interesting stuff from others. It's a great way to find other accounts you might want to follow.
Another good account to follow is @FediFollows@social.growyourown.services (https://social.growyourown.services/@FediFollows) They highlight interesting accounts to follow.
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That was my struggle too... I open it every once in a while, but it's the same people posting similar things.
First time I gave Mastadon a shot now. It's nice.
Special thanks to Kbin to introduce me into decentralized social media.
I'm using Tusky for now. It has more customization options than the official app. One thing I don't like about the official app is that everything looks gigantic.
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How good is Mastodon in general to follow football news? Transfer rumours and all?
Not there yet - but there are bot accounts that feed you their tweets. LOL Look up the accounts you have on Twitter for news and you'll most likely find a bot account for them on Mastodon. That's how I'm keeping up to date.
The update is really great. Enjoying it a lot.
What's a good way of finding people to follow on Mastadon?
I search tags, and if someone posts something interesting under a tag I like, I'll check their page out.
Like the other user said following tags is a great way to engage with things you choose. Along the way, you'll find people that you find interesting and then you can follow them directly. It's much less about seeking people and more letting them come to you.
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Mastodon app is great for people coming from Twitter but I love my Megalodon <3
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Mastodon seems to become yet another rage cage like twitter, first thing I saw when I opened it yesterday was people bitching about politics, that's a BIG nope for me
If you don't care about the world, don't follow people who do?
Thats a weird statement as you have a lot of options to change your feed and filter stuff out you don't like.
Like all social media, you have to curate it. I follow hashtags for cats, books, writing, fandoms, etc. The rage is minimum then because my homepage doesn't have politics or news. I actually do follow a couple of news sources, but their stuff is surrounded by an ocean of fun things so it's not nearly as bad.
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I tried a lot, but Toot! is the best of the bunch.
I don't think I'll ever make a Mastodon account, but I do like the rss feature so had been relying on that to get updates on certain projects. Now just need some Twitter accounts that haven't moved over to do the same. Some have websites, but don't even update it and relied solely on twitter to push update.
Twitter is mainly for self promotion than for users, so this seems pretty disruptive for them than it is for people like me.
I've found that my lemmy.world account can be followed by my mastodon.social account. I wonder if it is possible to log in to a mastodon client with it?
No. Lemmy and Mastodon federate using the ActivityPub protocol, but that's not good enough for making mobile apps or other clients. They each have their own API for their apps and an app made for one federated platform won't be able to log into another platform's server/instance.
All your interaction with the Fediverse is done through your instance.
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