BUT you can still upvote or comment on posts from different instances if you access them from within the instance your account is from!
So you don't need to create one account for each instance.
this post was submitted on 03 Jul 2023
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Yea the post is misleading. The community is games@lemmy.world not /c/games. That's reddit language creeping in.
Yes, saying c/gaming is meaningless. I pointed this out to one user yesterday and got the most unbelievable snark back.
It's just a jargon speed bump. It'll pass. Happens in any migration.
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This is a very important note, and I am afraid this post will confuse people. Yes, there are multiple c/games, but you can follow all of them from any of the accounts and comment, post and otherwise interact as long as your instances are federated.
It definitely confused me. I’m used to reddit so the idea that I would have to have multiple accounts was a huge downside. Thanks for clearing it up… At least a littl.
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Exactly - as long as the instance isnt defederated, you should be able to post/comment/upvote/mod in communities that are outside of your home instance.
Do posts outside of Lemmy.World not show up in my feed?
They do. This post is a bit misleading. If anyone on your instance is subscribed to games@lemmy.world or games@lemmy.ml, which are two different communities, then those posts would show up on your instance.
For instance, of you're on lemmy.world, there are two communities:
https://lemmy.world/c/games and https://lemmy.world/c/games@lemmy.ml. Two different communities, synced across both instances. The reverse would be true of you were on lemmy.ml.
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If you're looking at subscribed or All they do, but the local feed is the default, and that only shows stuff on the local instance, in this case lemmy.world.
If you mean your profile, that will show all your activity on every instance.
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Think of them like "Lemmy World Games" and "Lemmy ML Games"
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I swear upvote counts are isolated to individual instances too. I don't think they are supposed to be... But one post on Lemmy.world viewed from Lemmy.world shows hundreds of upvotes, but on another smaller instance it shows 5 upvotes.
I hope that's not the way Lemmy is intended to work.
It makes no sense at all
This can happen if federation breaks for a while, I think. For instance, if a lemmy instance goes down and can’t receive activity for a time, I don’t think there’s any mechanism to backfill that activity
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This is badly written - to someone who doesn't know any of this it reads like they're missing out on something. Yes there's !games@lemmy.world and !games@lemmy.ml - but you don't need an account on either to participate in both! You can just go there and browse, comment, etc.
Eventually one will become dominant, and it will all be fine.
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Isn't that the whole point though? Not relying on a single entity by spreading out, but still being connected?
Fragmentation would be fixed by just integrating lemmyverse.net's functionality into lemmy itself (like in this github issue), allowing users to see the true user count/activity of comms and incentivise them to join the most popular one.
Needs to be done asap imo; comm discoverability is not good right now and is probably the single biggest hurdle for new users
Anyone want to be the scrum master for them? Lol. Looks like they need a sprint planning session!
But can I comment and reply in other instances? If that's true then I guess who cares?
Yeah, it doesn't matter much except when you wanna view several communities on the same topic. I'd like to be able to see all the 3dprinting communities at once.
Then just subscribe to all of them
We do need a "multi-community" feature where we can view a bunch of similar subs in the same feed, however
I think the de facto community will take hold eventually for each subject, or we will simply have more than one. No big. Reddit had the same, each under different names. Here the name includes the instance.
When I see multiple communities on the same subject, I just subscribe to all of them. Either they'll eventually differentiate into their own unique spaces, or one of them will become the dominant one and the others will become fringe alternates. It's a good thing.
Like all the subreddits that have their “true” or “2” variant
What you have identified is a feature, not a bug. It immunizes us against mods getting swollen egos and going on a powertrip.
Ok so I'm looking at a post to You Should Know. When I look at the community info it says "You Should Know." The only way I know it's on lemmy.world is because it says you need to adhere to lemmy.world policies. I see nothing in the app (Jerboa) that indicates which instance it's on. What am I missing? If I am subscribed to a bunch of communities called "Games" how do I know which post comes from which community?
Is this an app-specific issue? I’m using wefwef on iOS and it shows “youshouldknow@lemmy.world” as the community. It doesn’t show it for the user, though, which is another worthwhile piece of information.
I'm on Jerboa and it does indicate as you quoted. I don't know why the guy said that way. Maybe lemmy.world is his home instance.
I think that’s it! I just checked and local communities don’t show the instance on my end either.
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Lemmy does not currently allow for instance or user migration.
This should probably be high up on the list of additions. I like the idea of Lemmy but for things like getting support no one is going to use Lemmy if the entire community and all the posts can just disappear one day and all the history go poof.
Instance migration, lemmyverse.net functionality in lemmy, and assigning new users to a good random instance upon registration (and letting them change it of course) so they don't need to know about instances, are the three most important features lemmy needs rn imo
Misleading
We need a more unified login experience. OIDC/Oauth would work wonders for this.
- User registers at X lemmy/mastadon/peertube instance (activitypub app, [APA]) and gets malloc@lemmy.xyz
- Users visits Y APA
- Logins to Y APA using X user
- User redirected to X APA instance to login (knows user registered at lemmy.xyz)
- Upon successful login, user returned to Y APA
User now able to browse/post/comment in Y APA without having to manually go through original APA app where user account lives.
Basically each APA acts as its own IdP (identity provider); and would go a long way in improving user experience and reducing frustration.
If you are not familiar with this flow, then look at any web service with a login. They are usually accompanied by a Google/Apple/Facebook login option; and that’s that we are trying to replicate here. One set of credentials across the entire fediverse.
honestly i feel that lemmy should just have been matrix-based rather than activitypub, sure it's nice to have native federation with mastodon but the forum structure is PERFECT for the matrix model.
By using matrix you would have communities be independent of servers (thus actually owned by the moderators and not the instance admins), and there would be a possibility of decentralized user accounts somewhere in the far future.
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I don’t think the post has a ton of merits for reasons that have already been described. That being said, there is one potential issue that I’m surprised that hasn’t been mentioned, which is impersonation.
Say someone takes the username jimbo on an instance somewhere and becomes super popular. Then someone else decides to create the same username jimbo on a similarly named instance and tries impersonating the other user. Sure, people can look and see “oh this isn’t that other jimbo” but you would have to look and see.
Probably not a major issue, but could theoretically become one.
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So there is a !trees@lemmy.world and !trees@no.lastname.nz (pluss probably others)
The first is more or less r/trees the second I set up for therapeutic uses of 'trees' and shrooms
Each instance will have it's own ethos, mod policies and code of conduct. Choose your communities based on what gets posted to them.
The same could be said for [hypothetical] [!worldnewa@beehaw.org](/c/worldnewa@beehaw.org) and [!worldnews@lemmygrad.ml](/c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml). They would be very different communities to read
I like Lemmy a lot so far, and I’ve brought along a couple of friends… I do have a couple of questions though!
What happens if the server I’m on goes down for an extended period of time, or forever? Is my account data just gone? Or is that mirrored somewhere else?
I'm thinking it's gone unless the owner of your instance makes backups
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I just sub to multiple communities with the same name.
As other commenters have mentioned, this is technically true but pretty misleading. This is viewing the fediverse through an inappropriate lens.
Your account technically doesn’t exist on other instances but it effectively doesn’t matter.
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