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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kamala is one of the few options with worse approval ratings than Biden tho...

Among the full US public, Biden’s favorability rating stands at just 34%, with 58% viewing him unfavorably. And while many of the Democratic names bandied about as possible replacements for Biden are less widely disliked, none would start with more public goodwill – instead, they are less well known. Harris has the widest recognition – and is also deeply underwater, with a 29% favorability rating, 49% rating her unfavorably, and 22% saying they have no opinion or haven’t heard of her. Roughly half of the public has no opinion on Buttigieg (50%) and Newsom (48%), with about two-thirds (69%) offering no opinion of Whitmer.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html

She does do better with independents in a head v head poll against trump.

But I can't imagine anyone is seriously thinking her 29% favorability should just be ignored.

Sadly, 69% of people not caring about Gretchen Whitmere makes her our best bet that the DNC is likely to support.

There's no way they'd back AOC

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Big Gretch for VP. You heard it here 1st.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

She really should have been Biden's VP.

It wasn't too long ago VPs were chosen to carry their home state, and we need Michigan.

Kamala brought nothing to the ticket, there's no way Dems would lose Cali, and she's ridiculously unpopular nationwide.

Even swapping her for Kamala at VP would make me feel better about Biden's chances. Still not comfortable, but better at least

[–] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

having a prosecutor for vice is bad enough

[–] krelvar@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Picking a VP to meet demographics rather than because they'd be a good president if the worst happens is... problematic, and I think that's exactly why she has the job. She wasn't great during the 2020 primary. Whether because the Biden team has sidelined her the last four years or some other factor, is irrelevant in the critical fight to not lose our democracy.

If I had my druthers it would be Whitmer/Shapiro - two popular (at least among their constituents) governors from swing states. The Dems have a number of promising candidates honestly - imagine that debate with Newsom instead of Biden - but the swing state issue tips it for me.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


For the sake of today’s discussion, though, let’s pretend that Biden’s ability to carry out his office for the next six months is not substantially affected and so the decision of whether or not to resign becomes purely (meaning politically) prudential.

It will be an unprecedented hand-off to the next generation of Democrats combined with a high degree of uncertainty as to whether or not she can deliver the goods.

Republicans will spend every day arguing that Biden should be removed via the 25th Amendment and Harris will have to answer that charge every time she talks to the media.

For starters, having President Harris traveling on Air Force One and standing behind the presidential seal would instantly solidify her gravitas.

It would create even more attention for her and give her the ability to dominate pretty much every news cycle from here to the election.

Vice President Harris would be neither, trapped in a sour spot of being on the hook for everything voters dislike about the Biden administration without the benefits of being battle tested.


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