Are the undecided voters in the room with us right now?
this post was submitted on 29 Jun 2024
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You laugh, but I still have no idea what I'm going to do in November.
I'm in Texas, so it doesn't really matter. But its not something I enjoy thinking about.
Texas is more purple than you think. PLEASE vote and PLEASE spread the word that every vote matters, because Trump supporters are far less defeatist than Biden supporters. Don't give them the illusion that your state is any more Republican than it already is by not voting.
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I mean I'm from the UK but votes in Texas absolutely do matter, arguably more than most states. Get your shit together man, it's not just a presidential issue, it's the entire government and the supreme court appointment at stake.
Being from the UK, you might be unaware that Texas is not a battleground state. As a solid Red state, votes for national offices cast there have no effect.
Sure, they can have Democrats as mayors of the urban centers, but the jerrymandered senate and congressional seats will go to Republicans.
Yes I am aware that Texas is full of morons that vote to hurt themselves. However, 5,890,347 votes were cast republican, and 5,259,126 were cast democrat. It's not as deep red sea as you believe it to be.
Current projections show the state not turning purple 'til the end of the decade at the earliest thanks to the influx of Republicans from California and an exodus of Democrats to blue states like Colorado.
So... That means don't vote? I don't understand what you're trying to say to be honest
My point is that working within a system that's designed to disenfranchise us is an exercise in futility, and telling people in red states to go vote is more likely to frustrate than inspire them. If voting is the beginning and end of your political participation, then you can be controlled simply by controlling who gets to be on the ballot.
When the government becomes intolerable, we must become ungovernable.
We need to build alternative structures of power that can organize around the intransigence of the State. This means forming affinity groups that serve community needs despite government opposition, like how the Black Panthers had school breakfast and literacy programs.
It’s hard to vote for Joe Biden but it’s really fucking easy to vote against Donald Trump.
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What, really?
I mean, holy shit, I'm not going to question divine providence from fucking Jupiter or whoever the fuck it is watching over elections, so, hey, you know, what convinces you convinces you.
I feel like even though biden didn't perform well, trump just said way too many obvious lies. Like saying the nazi rally in charlottesville was just a lie made up by biden?? Despite there being photos of it???
It's basically just depends if you stayed tuned. I mean I have perfect sympathy for someone who watched the first 15 or 20 minutes and then turn it off because you know damn. However the longer it went the worst Trump got and Biden kind of leveled out though never got impressive by any means.
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It's also early. We still have 5 months and way more debates.
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If you were listening for actual policy Biden crushed trump.
At least Biden attempted to directly answer questions. Trump repeatedly evaded them to talk about whatever he wanted during his allotted time.
Biden struggled to recall accurate information.
Trump effortlessly ranted and lied.
Both were embarrassing. One was worse.
Trump has never proven if he can recall accurate information either though.
He doesn’t need to do that for his own camp. He just needs to sound like he’s winning an argument.
The undecided voters may have been waiting for clear substantiation of goals and accomplishments. Biden did a terrible job explaining his own, but Trump was clearly evasive with the majority of his responses.
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Who is "undecided" after 8 years of dealing with this clown? Have these people been in a coma?
Or is it the usual I'm embarrassed to tell you I'll be voting for fascism "undecided"?
Some people are actually torn between the two, their close family and community lives are so intermingled with both that they actually are both seen as reasonable choices and are waiting to hear more about them to make a decision.
I don't see anything wrong with people waiting to see the candidates speak unassisted for nearly 2 hours in a rapid fire debate setting where they had to:
- Lay out their vision for the future
- Defend past decisions since both were/are president
- Handle the juvenile bickering that is bound to happen
Its one of the most honest and open displays of exactly who these candidates are, and even though I was already likely to vote Biden, I do feel better after hearing his IDEAS and THOUGHTS despite how he said them.
Switch undecided with unmotivated.
They might not care to remember to vote in November
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