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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca to c/montreal@lemmy.ca
 

I know this because I use SimpleLogin to provide each service with its own specialized email address. You can see in the picture the address starts with bixi@sl.***

It's also possible but unlikely that they sold user data.

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[–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I wouldn’t expect a lot of overlap between MAGA / crypto idiots and bike share users (especially in Montreal), but there’s the proof. Weird.

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I also assign unique eMail addresses for my online accounts, and also got this eMail today.

It's likely that Bixi got hacked, not that they sold the eMail address.

Just do what I do -- change the eMail address slightly on the mail server and on your online account.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah absolutely, it was just concerning to me that Bixi of all people would let my email address loose.

[–] independantiste@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

haha ouais j'ai eu le même email tantot, j'utilise aussi mon nom de domaine mais j'étais pas sur si c'était un pur hasard comme j'utilise un catch-all. Merci d'avoir confirmé!

ça serait vraiment pratique d'avoir un système de signature automatique avec SimpleLogin avec protonmail comme proposé dans ce blog: https://kevincox.ca/2022/07/07/signed-email-addresses/ comme ça, seul le courriel avec la signature unique peut recevoir des messages, et des messages perdus par des bots qui tentent des noms de domaines au hasard qui pourraient avoir un catch-all se font automatiquement rejeter.

update: simplelogin fait quelquechose presque comme j'aimerais, mais c'est pas aussi bien intégré que j'aimerais

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Haha yeah I got the same tantot email, I also use my domain name but I wasn't sure if it was a pure chance like I use a catch-all. Thank you for confirming!

It would be really convenient to have an automatic signature system with SimpleLogin with protonmail as proposed in this blog: https://kevincox.ca/2022/07/07/signed-email-addresses/ like that, only the email with the single signature can receive messages, and messages lost by bots that try random domain names that could have a catch-all are automatically rejected.

Update: simplelogin does something almost as I would like, but it's not as well integrated as I would like

Apple’s native translation Edit: for those browsing by All, didn’t see the community at first :)

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I think it's more likely they got breached, or a third-party was breached (I see "zoho" in there). It's easy for companies with shitty code to leak things like SendGrid tokens and web scrapers pick them up and use them for shit like the email you got.

I do the same thing for my emails, it's wild to trace back who leaked my email addresses. Man I hate how lousy our tech security is these days, or rather, the lack of fucks given and the lack of protections for consumers. Companies would rather buy cybersecurity insurance than actually make their shit secure.

[–] AnotherDirtyAnglo@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I just checked some older eMails, and it's not their mail provider / API token that got breached (previous messages used cyberimpact, not zoho).

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

This is probably the case, I've updated my title.

[–] paige@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This is not sufficient for your conclusion given the burden of proof required for this claim. And, to be clear, you are claiming that: This organization controlled by the municipality is SELLING your email address. Your proof is a screenshot with the addressed censored. Not that there was a leak, not that someone guessed this handle, not that PBSC got hacked, not that you typed the wrong handle into a form. I can run this past bixi for you if you DM me your address, but you're assuming a lot and I would bet not just MAGA but real coins that you're wrong about bixi selling your info.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That's a fair point, it's totally possible they got breached, I'll update my title / desc accordingly :)

Btw, as far as I know, Bixi is owned by Lyft and not the municipality, but feel free to correct me.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bixi is owned by Bixi Montréal a non profit created by the city in 2014.

Your confusion is probably that the founding company, PBSC, is now owned by Lyft. Now called PBSC Urban Solutions, it was the international operations portion of the company before the bankruptcy.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Oh interesting, that was 10 years ago, some sites are still providing this information as if it were actual and factual. Thanks for the correction!

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Btw I contacted them by email this morning and gave them all the information I have, waiting on a reply.

I sent you a PM with the information, let me know if you got it :)

[–] paige@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’ve gotten no response from them after a couple of days

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Call em, let them know your case number, it's what I did.

They replied to me letting me know they were looking into it after our call.

[–] jszym@cosocial.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@isVeryLoud I got the same email a few days ago from my bixi-specific account. This is pretty typical of a breach, doubt they sold it as such.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yup it is most likely a breach, I reported it to them on my side, it'd be great since you also have a single-use email address if you could also report it to them.

You can give them a call after you email them the info to get them to get on it, that's what I did :)

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I was about to send them an email... Why havent they disclosed publicly? They have my credit card info

The spam i got was for MAGA coin lol

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a typo in the screenshot. It seems to use the french word "mouvement", which seems very odd to me in this far right US nationalist context.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Do you think the scam came from within Quebec and autocorrect kicked in? :P

[–] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Perhaps the far right movement in France?

[–] RealCaptPicard@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pour ma part je n'ai pas reçu ce joli courriel. Peut-être que leur modèle de traitement pense que je suis trop pauvre pour leur arnaque 🤷

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Il est possible que tu sois tombé sur une autre liste de distribution, Zoho ne semble pas être leur fournisseur courant.

[–] RealCaptPicard@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ou alors la possible fuite se serait produite avant mon inscription en 2019. C'est quand même intriguant comme situation en lien avec bixi

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Impossible, ça fait moins d'un an que j'ai cette adresse courriel

Perso je pense qu'ils testent les eaux avec une petite batch avant d'envoyer une grosse batch de spam à tout le monde, voir si Bixi va s'en rendre compte.

[–] RealCaptPicard@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bon bien on va rester sur le qui-vive. On n'est pas rendu à une alerte de fuite de données personnelles près depuis quelques mois...

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

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